Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

[Jesus H Gabz]

The reason UEFA are at fault is that they are supposed to assess the risks and then put in place a plan which is safe for supporters turning up with genuine tickets for the match.

If they were aware that there were likely to be a lot of fake tickets (and I believe Merseyside police warned them), then they have a responsibility to the other fans to make sure they can deal with that effectively.

The coverage in the Guardian has been particularly red-tinted, but there was a good interactive showing the whole route for fans to the stadium. They were essentially forced into very long bottle necks (and these couldn't be seen by the people arriving so they didn't realise that there was a problem ahead), and at these points they tried to check tickets. Even without fake tickets it looked like a recipe for disaster, but as soon as tickets start getting rejected, the whole thing collapses. There is already a crush behind, so nowhere for the fan whose ticket has been rejected to go (and bear in mind they could have a genuine ticket but a fake copy had been scanned), and given that it's a massive bottle neck, there is constant pressure building up behind.

No-one is saying that UEFA didn't look after the fans trying to jib in, they're saying that they put the fans who had spent a lot of money on genuine tickets at risk

When looking to solve a problem you should always start at the root cause & ask what could we have done differently. UEFA’s fatal mistake was allowing paper tickets in the Liverpool end, as Lfc insisted this be the case then I see that as them being part responsible, they accepted and distributed the tickets (maybe even forged some) therefore I see it as their responsibility if they fall into the wrong hands, had they been digital the black market would of been a lot smaller. All Lfc had to do was print peoples names on the tickets (not too difficult) and require them to show valid I.d. on entry….let’s put it this way, if we reach Wembley in the fa cup & we’re allocated 37’000 and 40’000 + turn up/gain entry and chaos ensues, do you think the fa investigate & blame themselves? Or do you think they’ll say City wtf have you done?

 

[cheekybids]

Pep looked really uncomfortable saying it. I wonder if he'd been told to do it?

He looked mischievous. He was taking the piss.

He’s showing it’s not hard to apologise but no one ever apologised to him or City.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

So it was UEFA, who printed and distributed the fake tickets, and encouraged Littlewoods fans to travel to Paris without a valid means of entry to the stadium?

I don't know how true it is, but I remember reading in the aftermath that UEFA wanted to do only electronic tickets and it was Liverpool who insisted on also having printed tickets. Now the advice from the report has come out and said that all tickets should be electronic for future events, and Jordan Henderson is banging on about how UEFA should implement all of the findings in the report.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

The reason UEFA are at fault is that they are supposed to assess the risks and then put in place a plan which is safe for supporters turning up with genuine tickets for the match.

If they were aware that there were likely to be a lot of fake tickets (and I believe Merseyside police warned them), then they have a responsibility to the other fans to make sure they can deal with that effectively.

The coverage in the Guardian has been particularly red-tinted, but there was a good interactive showing the whole route for fans to the stadium. They were essentially forced into very long bottle necks (and these couldn't be seen by the people arriving so they didn't realise that there was a problem ahead), and at these points they tried to check tickets. Even without fake tickets it looked like a recipe for disaster, but as soon as tickets start getting rejected, the whole thing collapses. There is already a crush behind, so nowhere for the fan whose ticket has been rejected to go (and bear in mind they could have a genuine ticket but a fake copy had been scanned), and given that it's a massive bottle neck, there is constant pressure building up behind.

No-one is saying that UEFA didn't look after the fans trying to jib in, they're saying that they put the fans who had spent a lot of money on genuine tickets at risk

Shame Liverpool fans can never show a duty of care to other Liverpool fans...or any other fans for that matter.
Obviously that's someone else's responsibility. Other clubs seem to get by without these large scale "incidents", but the common denominator clearly can't be questioned.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Shame Liverpool fans can never show a duty of care to other Liverpool fans...or other fans for that matter.

The first sign of compensation and they sign up in their thousands it’s like Thursday down the job centre la

 

[roach3]

To be fair it must be fucking annoying being a genuine decent liverpool fan being tarnished with their ferel brethren knowing there’s fuckall they can do about anything.

The scouse mafia have football by the bollox
The whole hillsborough episode is a free pass for the dippers to do anything they want and never be questioned through fear of huge compensation claims.

When you have their biggest and hated rivals getting in bed with them you know it’s fucked.

But I do believe it won’t be long before they slip up, they just can’t help what they are
It’s in their dna.

 

[manimanc]

'Over 600 Liverpool fans step up legal claim against UEFA over CL final'

Liverpool demand UEFA implement Champions League final recommendations 'no matter how difficult' after damning report

Champions League final on May 28, 2022 between Liverpool and Real Madrid at Stade de France was overshadowed by serious problems for supporters outside; dangerous crushes formed as a result of access issues and many fans were tear-gassed or pepper-sprayed by police

www.skysports.com

Fuckin state of this.

Absolute shithouses.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

I hate how Pep's been made to humble himself before Gerrard.

Don’t worry, it’ll all even out when Klopp apologises for trying to patronise Nedum.

 

[Kippax77]

Real Madrid winning that final will eventually be airbrushed out of the history books as a goodwill gesture to the victims in red.
Then everyone can move on with their lives

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

'Over 600 Liverpool fans step up legal claim against UEFA over CL final'

Liverpool demand UEFA implement Champions League final recommendations 'no matter how difficult' after damning report

Champions League final on May 28, 2022 between Liverpool and Real Madrid at Stade de France was overshadowed by serious problems for supporters outside; dangerous crushes formed as a result of access issues and many fans were tear-gassed or pepper-sprayed by police

www.skysports.com

Fuckin state of this.

Absolute shithouses.

Haha, they'll be busy doing this at the same time as claiming all those benefits and suing the council for tripping on loose paving - it'll virtually be a full time job

 

[plattlanebenches]

That's simply not true - if you look at the route to the stadium it was completely different at the Liverpool end and was always going to be a total disaster. It was a really long route, with lots of bottle necks and pinch points.

What if City get to a Champions League final and you have a ticket, but you ended up being crushed in a queue for hours on end, then can't get in because some fucker has used a fake version of your ticket?

Of course the fucker with the fake ticket is responsible. But if UEFA knew there were likely to be fakes, and not only didn't plan to deal with them, but set up a system which encouraged the crush, would YOU feel pissed off? Sure you'd be angry about the idiot trying to jib in, but that's what idiots do. UEFA on the other hand are supposed to think about these things and do their very best to ensure you're safe and can get in to the ground with your legit ticket.

No fake tickets then the fans with tickets get in no problem and therefore no crush. It’s not rocket science.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

It was Chelsea fans at Heysel
Belgium skinheads too
French police in Paris
In 2022

 

[blueinsa]

'Over 600 Liverpool fans step up legal claim against UEFA over CL final'

Liverpool demand UEFA implement Champions League final recommendations 'no matter how difficult' after damning report

Champions League final on May 28, 2022 between Liverpool and Real Madrid at Stade de France was overshadowed by serious problems for supporters outside; dangerous crushes formed as a result of access issues and many fans were tear-gassed or pepper-sprayed by police

www.skysports.com

Fuckin state of this.

Absolute shithouses.

And so it begins………

Support groups….parliamentary committees…..inquiries……another PR weapon the club will use for countless years.

 

[give it to gordon]

'Over 600 Liverpool fans step up legal claim against UEFA over CL final'

Liverpool demand UEFA implement Champions League final recommendations 'no matter how difficult' after damning report

Champions League final on May 28, 2022 between Liverpool and Real Madrid at Stade de France was overshadowed by serious problems for supporters outside; dangerous crushes formed as a result of access issues and many fans were tear-gassed or pepper-sprayed by police

www.skysports.com

Fuckin state of this.

Absolute shithouses.

Can they take legal action against themselves ?
They jibbed in.
lfc wanted paper tickets.
They manager encouraged them to ho over without tickets.
They posted on social media their pride in getting fans in without tickets.
Fake tickets were on sale on social media.


it's all the authorities fault even though RM had no problems at their end.

But of course I have just written is aload of bollocks and my eyes were lying to me.

Lfc are completely innocent of any wrong doing.

The authorities the press/media must think we are all thick

 

[blueinsa]

Can they take legal action against themselves ?
They jibbed in.
lfc wanted paper tickets.
They manager encouraged them to ho over without tickets.
They posted on social media their pride in getting fans in without tickets.
Fake tickets were on sale on social media.


it's all the authorities fault even though RM had no problems at their end.

But of course I have just written is aload of bollocks and my eyes were lying to me.

Lfc are completely innocent of any wrong doing.

The authorities the press/media must think we are all thick

Liverpool FC, the media, Tory party.

I can’t make my mind up as to who is guilty of gaslighting the public more?

 

[manimanc]

Can they take legal action against themselves ?
They jibbed in.
lfc wanted paper tickets.
They manager encouraged them to ho over without tickets.
They posted on social media their pride in getting fans in without tickets.
Fake tickets were on sale on social media.


it's all the authorities fault even though RM had no problems at their end.

But of course I have just written is aload of bollocks and my eyes were lying to me.

Lfc are completely innocent of any wrong doing.

The authorities the press/media must think we are all thick

At what point will UEFA award the game to the tramps?

That's the only thing left to do.

It is truly baffling just how they get away with blatant law breaking.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Can they take legal action against themselves ?
They jibbed in.
lfc wanted paper tickets.
They manager encouraged them to ho over without tickets.
They posted on social media their pride in getting fans in without tickets.
Fake tickets were on sale on social media.


it's all the authorities fault even though RM had no problems at their end.

But of course I have just written is aload of bollocks and my eyes were lying to me.

Lfc are completely innocent of any wrong doing.

The authorities the press/media must think we are all thick

The fans who couldn't get in either had the barcode on their genuine ticket nullified by a forged ticket, or were prevented from getting in by police because of a clampdown due to THEIR OWN FANS trying to climb the fences.

NONE of that is UEFA's fault.

What IS UEFA's fault is that they allowed the Tramps to have paper tickets instead of telling them to f*ck off.

ALWAYS THE VICTIMS.

 

[Indaparkside]

The French authorities are counter suing saying
They have had to fumigate Paris with the scruffy cunts costing 10’s of millions in euros

 

[Blue Mist]

No fake tickets then the fans with tickets get in no problem and therefore no crush. It’s not rocket science.

Sorry but that isn't true. Forget the fake tickets, that is a small part of it.
The real problem is jibbing in, one legit fan suddenly finds (but fully accepts) someone pushing through the turnstile with him.
Also, have we forgotten the scenes where they were storming through checkpoints? Oh sorry that was locals.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

And so it begins………

Support groups….parliamentary committees…..inquiries……another PR weapon the club will use for countless years.

The lubing and bending for these noisy, whining c#nts is incredible. Imagine being that coercive and watching all the spineless sycophants fall for every single thing you do.
Mind you, enough in here have fallen for it.