North Stand Construction Discussion

[Gone for a Burton]

I know what they can do, but I see what they have done and that's make a lot of mistakes. They got the singing section in the expanded SS all wrong. The SS expansion looks okay and nothing more, and in general from the outside it's a pretty unattractive stadium. The Design and Access Statement from the extant permission showed the potential for lighting and displays on the externals which would transform the stadium, but nothing has come forwards. Hopefully that's just because they want everything in place first, and we'll see more ambition with his next stage. I recognise it's working to existing constraints so a difficult job, but I'm hoping there's some real wow factor to this design, which has been a bit lacking so far.

Our owners were not responsible for the design, appearance or licensing/safety protocols which were established almost 20 years ago.

The stadium and campus will be a ' destination ' with facilities, image and appearance to match.

For example take a look at the wrapping of the Yas Islands Hotel at the F1 arena.

It will all take several years but will be worth waiting for.

 

[WRicko]

Hopefully the expanded North stand will have a totally different exterior and look about it, compared to all the other stands. And it can be carried on around the rest of the ground over time? If it’s similar to the North stand expansion, grey, with an industrial look, and plant showing at the top of the stand, that won’t be great. I have faith in the club and the snippets posted by other forum members that this will be something special or at least very good, and totally different to the stands we have. Fingers crossed.

You need symmetry so North and South will look the same

 

[supercity88]

Our owners were not responsible for the design, appearance or licensing/safety protocols which were established almost 20 years ago.

The stadium and campus will be a ' destination ' with facilities, image and appearance to match.

For example take a look at the wrapping of the Yas Islands Hotel at the F1 arena.

It will all take several years but will be worth waiting for.

They weren't, but they've been responsible for the South Stand and upkeep of the stadium which is pretty poor. They could have done temporary measures to improve the elevational treatment of the stadium, as we're now 15 years on from the takeover and any works to the east and west stands are probably 10 years away. That's a long time to wait before making any external improvements. City square was also a bit of a half-arsed job, but I'm willing to forgive that if what is to come stands out.

Whilst our owners are brilliant and capable of amazing things, it's always about a return. You get that return in Abu Dhabi where people will spend a fortune for 5star. An out of town events area which only functions on certain days and is hard to get to, is unlikely to warrant that same kind of standard. But we will see. I'm happy to be wrong on this, in fact I'll be over the moon.

 

[jrb]

You need symmetry so North and South will look the same

If it's a 2 tier as rumored it won't be the same.

I doubt very much it will be anything like the
exterior of the South stand. I certainly hope not.

However, I do like the shape of the roof.

Lol! Cheeky Sods are using my pictures. At least they've credited me. Think I remember them asking if they could use my pictures?

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[EastMidlandsBlue]

Of course we’re not allowed to bring flares and smokies in the ground.

AIK, Sweden. Tier 2 support.

I always wonder how they're able to get all them flares into the ground. It's the same in Dortmund, and I got the most thorough pat down I've ever had at dortmund back in October.

If they got the same check I got there was no way they were getting flares in, let alone that many

 

[Gone for a Burton]

They weren't, but they've been responsible for the South Stand and upkeep of the stadium which is pretty poor. They could have done temporary measures to improve the elevational treatment of the stadium, as we're now 15 years on from the takeover and any works to the east and west stands are probably 10 years away. That's a long time to wait before making any external improvements. City square was also a bit of a half-arsed job, but I'm willing to forgive that if what is to come stands out.

Whilst our owners are brilliant and capable of amazing things, it's always about a return. You get that return in Abu Dhabi where people will spend a fortune for 5star. An out of town events area which only functions on certain days and is hard to get to, is unlikely to warrant that same kind of standard. But we will see. I'm happy to be wrong on this, in fact I'll be over the moon.

Transportation in its widest sense is our biggest downfall/ area of improvement.

It is scandalous that the campus is so underserved by metro on matchdays.

The new area parking restrictions are also going to be a hindrance to many fans/visitors.

It is to be hoped and expected that the club will be in detailed discussions with the operators and GMC to produce sustainable solutions.

Etihad Rail has a good ring to it and the are spending billions on expanding the network across the GCC

 

[jrb]

I always wonder how they're able to get all them flares into the ground. It's the same in Dortmund, and I got the most thorough pat down I've ever had at dortmund back in October.

If they got the same check I got there was no way they were getting flares in, let alone that many

Basel managed it at the Etihad.

 

[Centurions]

It reminds me of a set top box. Will probably look better close up and when lit up though.

That's what came to my mind, either a Freeview STB or a small games console. I don't like the exterior finish one little bit.

 

[jrb]

That's what came to my mind, either a Freeview STB or a small games console. I don't like the exterior finish one little bit.

It’s the inside that’s the important bit.

It’s a square plot of land which had to be maximised.

Admittedly it’s not the most exciting or eye catching design, but not very arena has to look like a shiny space ship.

 

[Centurions]

It’s the inside that’s the important bit.

It’s a square plot of land which had to be maximised.

Admittedly it’s not the most exciting or eye catching design, but not very arena has to look like a shiny space ship.

Really? This thread is full of people complaining that The Etihad is "miles behind" the likes of Arsenal & Spurs from an exterior viewpoint.

It doesn't have to look like a spaceship no, however it should at least look like a stadium and not a cheap piece of tech.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

I always wonder how they're able to get all them flares into the ground. It's the same in Dortmund, and I got the most thorough pat down I've ever had at dortmund back in October.

If they got the same check I got there was no way they were getting flares in, let alone that many

Kids don’t get patted down at City, maybe they use the kids to take them in?

 

[jrb]

Really? This thread is full of people complaining that The Etihad is "miles behind" the likes of Arsenal & Spurs from an exterior viewpoint.

It doesn't have to look like a spaceship no, however it should at least look like a stadium and not a cheap piece of tech.

We’re discussing the arena not the Etihad.

I accept it’s not to everyone’s liking, but the majority of the ‘£375mill’ build and fit out cost is being spent on the inside of the arena. That’s the most important part of the arena, That will set it apart from the AO Arena and the other UK arenas.

When people leave or stay after the concerts and events they won’t be discussing the arenas external appearance, they will hopefully be discussing what a great experience and time they had inside the arena?

I’ve booked a place on the Open Doors tour in March. I’ll take some pictures and write down any thing we’re told. If anyone has any questions please PM me and I’ll forward them on to the person doing the presentation.

 

[Centurions]

We’re discussing the arena not the Etihad.

I accept it’s not to everyone’s liking, but the majority of the ‘£375mill’ build and fit out cost is being spent on the inside of the arena. That’s the most important part of the arena, That will set it apart from the AO Arena and the other UK arenas.

When people leave or stay after the concerts and events they won’t be discussing the arenas external appearance, they will hopefully be discussing what a great experience and time they had inside the arena?

I’ve booked a place on the Open Doors tour in March. I’ll take some pictures and write down any thing we’re told. If anyone has any questions please PM me and I’ll forward them on to the person doing the presentation.

Ahh, well that's your fault for posting pics of a football ground :)

 

[jrb]

Ahh, well that's your fault for posting pics of a football ground :)

Externally the outside canal side bar and seating area is a great addition.(during the Spring and Summer months) Credit needs to be given for using the canal as an area to sit and to enjoy a drink before a match, concert and event.







Back to topic.

 

[Centurions]

Externally the outside canal side bar and seating area is a great addition.(during the Spring and Summer months) Credit needs to be given for using the canal as an area to sit and to enjoy a drink before a match, concert and event.

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I've just realised, it was the new Bernabeu stadium I was talking about, not the COOP Live. I like that. Or are we at cross purposes?

 

[LongsightM13]

Yep, it’s rubbish.

They are going to improve but ultimately their customers aren’t the paying public, they’re the big promotions companies like Live Nation.

And Live Nation don’t give a shit about the quality of the bars either - the state of the offer in their own venues is testament to that (O2 Ritz, O2 Apollo).

Joe Public is a captive audience.

It’s a shithole with terrible acoustics and even worse bars and food offerings.
This new gaff is going to be like a Ferrari compared to a Mondeo. And it will be designed for people to spend hours there before and after

 

[LongsightM13]

The Nynex has free street parking right next to it and a much better transport offer and everything else in the city centre supporting it. But the Co-op is "sustainable". I hope the Co-op is a disaster, they have had no regard for the fans.

Seeing as City are a major investor and partner in the Co-op Live, I have to say that is a thoroughly weird thing to say
Surely more drink and food offerings near the stadium on a matchday is a good thing for the fans?

 

[jimharri]

Ahh, well that's your fault for posting pics of a football ground :)

Hey; it makes a change from pictures of "Manc-hattan". Be grateful!

;-)

 

[LongsightM13]

Transportation in its widest sense is our biggest downfall/ area of improvement.

It is scandalous that the campus is so underserved by metro on matchdays.

The new area parking restrictions are also going to be a hindrance to many fans/visitors.

It is to be hoped and expected that the club will be in detailed discussions with the operators and GMC to produce sustainable solutions.

Etihad Rail has a good ring to it and the are spending billions on expanding the network across the GCC

One line and one station in and out
The odd lot can access every line on the network within a 10/15 minute walk

 

[guy debord]

If it's a 2 tier as rumored it won't be the same.

I doubt very much it will be anything like the
exterior of the South stand. I certainly hope not.

However, I do like the shape of the roof.

Lol! Cheeky Sods are using my pictures. At least they've credited me. Think I remember them asking if they could use my pictures?

http://stadiumdb.com/constructions/eng/etihad_stadium[/Img]

You should tell them to take them down or pay you for usage.