Media thread 2022/23

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crazyg said:
Which is the Arsenal fan? It's difficult to tell.

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Is that when Adeybayor scored?
 
halfcenturyup said:
While I can agree with the sentiment, I find it hard to see what power the red clubs hold over the PL at the moment.

At the time the investigation was started, there may have been the threat of the ESL, but that is dead in the water now. I liken the PL weakness to the same weakness Platini showed with FFP in the face of the same threat, and look at what a shambles that turned out to be. I expect this investigation to turn into a shambles at some point for the same reason.

What the PL should have done, if they were stronger, was wait until the UEFA investigation was finished then build anything else they had on top of whatever was successful there. But as we know, there was nothing successful.

Right now? I don't see any reason why the PL couldn't have just said: we investigated and were happy with the responses we received. Why does the PL think it needs this drama and why the continued weakness?
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The very pertinent difference, as I understand it, is that with UEFA there was recourse to a truly independent arbiter. If there wasn't, we'd have been booted out of the CL for two years based on what was established to be "no evidence" whatsoever.

Personally, I'd like to see the payments going out of Rosen's bank account to prove that he is actually paying for his membership at Arsenal and not receiving it as a "perk".
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Exactly. Liew knows what he’s doing. He might be a **** but he’s discernibly smarter than Delaney.
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Does anyone really take him seriously? He looks like a 5th former who's just been caught having a wank in the girl's toilets. The infinitely more talented Jonathan Agnew was 100 % right about him - he's a clickbait c*nt.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think the Premier League actually want this shit with City, I certainly don't.

The lobbying from a powerful collection of clubs who want their ball back and using their 'status' to put the executive between a rock and a hard place.
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But the Premier League ARE these clubs, hence why they're so against an independent regulator.

I can see a few PL Executive Officers being VERY wary about their pursuit of City, & they probably just want to get on running the league & protecting it from the Super League, but the 20 clubs are their Masters, & the PL Executive are their employees...

There's a monkey & organ grinder scenario here, & several of the 20 PL Clubs are plinking away on the ivories like Liberace & the Executive are merely dancing along to their Masters' tune!

They make me sick! :-/
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think the Premier League actually want this shit with City, I certainly don't.

The lobbying from a powerful collection of clubs who want their ball back and using their 'status' to put the executive between a rock and a hard place.
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100%.

Would you put UEFA’s executive in the same boat too mate?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think the Premier League actually want this shit with City, I certainly don't.

The lobbying from a powerful collection of clubs who want their ball back and using their 'status' to put the executive between a rock and a hard place.
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The PL want to protect the brand and having this hanging over their champions isn't a good thing for the brand. IMO they have been bounced into this and would probably wish it all went away.
 
Gremlin said:
The PL want to protect the brand and having this hanging over their champions isn't a good thing for the brand. IMO they have been bounced into this and would probably wish it all went away.
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Agree.

The PL is all about the ££££

They've now got the best team in Europe (possibly) the world with new and future superstars coming through. Coached by the best coach in the world.

They'd love to milk that for all it's worth.

We came along, smashed the cozy cartel who had a business model that only worked for them. The more we win and the more they fail they become irrelevant as ourselves and other clubs who see the opportunity to change their business models to complete, and beat the old guard into submission.

History will show us well.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think the Premier League actually want this shit with City, I certainly don't.

The lobbying from a powerful collection of clubs who want their ball back and using their 'status' to put the executive between a rock and a hard place.
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So why didn't Masters just tell the Red Shirts to fuck off??? The lobbyists may well be powerful, but this is a multi-billion £ industry, and to damage the product is just shooting themselves in the foot. For all their shithousery over the last decade, they've not really been successful because it hasn't stopped us winning things.
 
Stockton Heath Blue said:
So why didn't Masters just tell the Red Shirts to fuck off??? The lobbyists may well be powerful, but this is a multi-billion £ industry, and to damage the product is just shooting themselves in the foot. For all their shithousery over the last decade, they've not really been successful because it hasn't stopped us winning things.
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Americans are absolutely the masters of this shit. The CIA have done it for decades. Never underestimate the power of Yanks and the dark arts.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think the Premier League actually want this shit with City, I certainly don't.

The lobbying from a powerful collection of clubs who want their ball back and using their 'status' to put the executive between a rock and a hard place.
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I sense a tide is turning, slowly. These clubs and their narrative peddled by the media is self defeating. State owned, unlimited resources, two teams etc (all untrue) paints a picture that they cannot compete. They essentially believe it themselves now. Meanwhile Newcastle United just took a Top 4 place and Brighton came very close with much less spend than the red tops. Hopefully Newcastle manage to continue to take a top 4 spot. If us and Newcastle continue to take a spot that leaves 2 available each season. One of them if not more will miss out, regularly. At some point surely their fans will realise they’ve been gaslighted.
 
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