PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

The Mancini consultancy deal with the club in Abu Dhabi happened four years before FFP rules came in for the PL and before he joined City.
I would imagine that not declaring it would be a charge on its own, there were rules in place before FFP. I must admit I didn’t know it happened before Mancini joined us, they certainly like to plan their managerial appointments in advance.
 
You’d like to think so, but we’re dealing with a set of cnuts, who set a ‘fuck you’ tone to proceedings by briefing Ziegler and Co that we were facing 115 charges rather than 5, and who in turn are in thrall to another set of cnuts. And when there’s cnuts about, expect cnutiness
I keep going back to the club statement- irrefutable evidence.
 
Fuckin joke isn't it.
The premier league are doing nothing and the media coverage is non existent.
Same when they were investigated by HMRC, not a fucking peep.
I read it on here and that’s the only reason I knew about it.
Yet we get coverage all over social media, YouTube, the papers and every news channel going.
Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a carrier pigeon on its way to somewhere to tell someone City are cheats.
Anyone who says we’re not treated differently are living in fucking cloud cuckoo land.
 
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I honestly think it was an attempt to boost the perceived value of the two red scums for any potential sales.
Well it failed on the scouse front , and I’ll bet the delay with United is the rumoured HMRC discrepancy, either that , or scruffy Jim is having a whip-round in the crown and cushion in Failsworth.
 
I can guess what's happened over the last few years. The cartel clubs were hanging their hats on us getting a ban from UEFA, at which point the PL would also presumably have charged us. The PL claimed to be investigating in 2018 but probably did fuck all of any note. Once the UEFA case was chucked out by CAS, Plan B went into operation, which involved the PL starting to dig around.

They could only go on the stuff that Der Spiegel published but the Etihad stuff was probably off the table. All they really had was the time-barred stuff, Mancini's contract and Fordham, which UEFA knew about a few years earlier but having spoken to us weren't seemingly too bothered about.

So they've got some bits and pieces, but they're pretty weak and I suspect the PL legal advisors have told them this. But Masters has a problem, as the cartel clubs are on his back. For a while it looks like Arsenal are going to win the league and it looks less obvious than bringing charges when we're ahead. So after we lose to Spurs, urged on by Levy on behalf of the cartel clubs, they insist on sticking the boot in. Masters, like Ceferin before him, really doesn't want to do this but he's under pressure. So his way out is to agree to bring charges he knows have little or no hope of success.
And we’ve not lost since.
So, not quite the effect they were undoubtedly hoping for.……
 
If you stop and think about this, this was never intended to run the full course and get points deducted or us thrown out of the league, the ramifications are so complicated and self destructive towards the PL

I suspect it was an attempt to tarnish and diminish the clubs achievements', just a huge smear against the club pushed by the usal and I guess unusual suspects

This. Throw the dirt knowing the media will make it stick with tribal clubs and fans and hope it throws us off our form and maybe even lose players or Pep over it.

Shame it’s had the complete opposite effect eh lol.

This never see the courts because it will bring the PL down with it.
 
I would hope/imagine that Khaldoon has spoken to the PL and told them if they persist with this nonsense then we have 19 other files we would like to let them have a look at - now would the PL really want to risk opening Pandoras Box ?
It would genuinely surprise me if we do not have serious questions that could be asked of other clubs.
 
But surely EB, if we have “Irrefutable” evidence, it wouldn’t matter if baconface was chairing the proceedings ?

Not saying we’re guilty but if we had irrefutable evidence that would close the case we would already have done so.

Lawyers posture and it’s PR.

We may well have evidence but so will PL, irrefutable is just our way of phasing ours.

It think it could well simply be the accounts. Here our the City accounts signed of by BDO, the sponsors accounts showing the payment out and our bank statement showing money in.

That is irrefutable proof unless PL can show something official to counter act it (which I don’t think they can, bar rumour, the fact we refuse to give them anything and the odd email).

No independent court in the land would side with PL and I would expect anyone who has raised to KC will have to give credence to official documentation over what PL has.
 
If any form of harm has been caused by these charges eg in an email Bellingham's agent stated "My client has chosen not to consider MCFC due to concerns regarding the PL charges".

Or a parent informs the club their highly talented son/daughter will not be joining the Academy because of the PL charges.

Or let's say a prospective commercial partner in a written statement confirms they have decided not to commit to a contract for the same reason.

In addition, the absence of any form of sub judice has led to a global/daily frenzy of damaging and malicious reporting in all forms of media. Evidence of this could be presented to a court ad nauseum.

If this was a criminal case there would be no doubt that extensive pervasive, and prejudicial publicity had corrupted the whole process irreversiblely.

As MCFC are 5% shareholders of the PL, the remaining 95% should be liable for all these damages. Are the PL ignorant to these implications?

btw Still no answer to this one, Exactly how much money has the PL spent in legal fees over the past five years in its investigation of one of its own shareholders, £1M, £5M, £10M ?. Why does the PL not state this cleary and precisely in its audited accounts ? This investigation was described by a judge as of public interest, so why the obfuscation?

Lets say a full exoneration is accompanied with a disclosure the PL had spent £10M in legal fees investigating MCFC, this would be proof of an orchestrated and coordinated attack by competitor clubs.
 
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It would genuinely surprise me if we do not have serious questions that could be asked of other clubs.
Like I’ve said before - whatever we have done we are not the only ones and it beggars belief anybody in football would think otherwise. I am astonished it’s got this far unless like other posters have said it’s just a smear campaign meant to distract and detract from just how bloody good we are.
 
Not saying we’re guilty but if we had irrefutable evidence that would close the case we would already have done so.

Lawyers posture and it’s PR.

We may well have evidence but so will PL, irrefutable is just our way of phasing ours.

It think it could well simply be the accounts. Here our the City accounts signed of by BDO, the sponsors accounts showing the payment out and our bank statement showing money in.

That is irrefutable proof unless PL can show something official to counter act it (which I don’t think they can, bar rumour, the fact we refuse to give them anything and the odd email).

No independent court in the land would side with PL and I would expect anyone who has raised to KC will have to give credence to official documentation over what PL has.
I’ll side with the club mate that’s all I’m saying
 
Not saying we’re guilty but if we had irrefutable evidence that would close the case we would already have done so.

Lawyers posture and it’s PR.

We may well have evidence but it will be open to interpretation, irrefutable is just our way of phasing it.

It could well simply be the accounts. Here our the City accounts signed of by BDO, the sponsors accounts showing the payment out and our bank statement showing money in.

That is irrefutable proof unless PL can show something else (which I don’t think they can, bar rumour, the fact we refuse to give them anything and the odd email).

No independent court in the land would side with PL and I would expect anyone to raise to KC, will have to give credence to official documentation.
I think the PL are in a bind. They’ve got nowt substantive and we’re blocking any more fishing trips leaving them nowhere to go. If they had strong evidence or a “smoking gun”, they’d have had us by now. As the clamour to move this forward gets louder from all sides, their position gets more desperate.
Provided we‘re reading this right - and TH has shared great insights into how the club see it - all the signs are looking good, but we’re obviously not home and dry yet.
 
I think the PL are in a bind. They’ve got nowt substantive and we’re blocking any more fishing trips leaving them nowhere to go. If they had strong evidence or a “smoking gun”, they’d have had us by now. As the clamour to move this forward gets louder from all sides, their position gets more desperate.
Provided we‘re reading this right - and TH has shared great insights into how the club see it - all the signs are looking good, but we’re obviously not home and dry yet.

I think that’s a good read on the situation.

I’m really not sure where PL go on this, I do worry there line of least resistance is probably to take us all the way (despite knowing we will most likely win).

It is what UEFA did.

I would prefer it to get dropped before then.
 

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