VAR thread 2022/23

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jrb said:
Well, there’s a surprise!

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At the other end of the table, champions Manchester City and this season's surprise package Brighton were the teams most negatively affected by VAR as both had four more decisions go against them than for them.

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As the popular suggestion is that the perceived bias always favours the big clubs, I’d say it is a surprise, as 6 of the 7 clubs with a positive score have only been promoted to the Premier League in the last three or four years.
 
Stephen230 said:
As the popular suggestion is that the perceived bias always favours the big clubs, I’d say it is a surprise, as 6 of the 7 clubs with a positive score have only been promoted to the Premier League in the last three or four years.
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Depends on what this is actually showing. Is it just saying who has had the most VAR reviews go in their favour? Or does it only count decisions that are overturned?

To start with, for this to be a helpful measure first VAR actually has to be involved at all. If it chooses not to review it's not going to be included.

So yes it could be saying what you suggest... but it could just as easily be saying that these smaller teams get screwed over more often by on-field decisions which then have to be rectified by VAR. Or it could be saying that VAR tends to get involved for smaller teams only when it's 100% certain something will be overturned.

I think tin pot analysis like this that just states headlines but actually tells you nothing is counter-productive and has zero explanatory power. Even if on this occasion we appear to be the beneficiaries.
 
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SkyBlueFlux said:
Depends on what this is actually showing. Is it just saying who has had the most VAR reviews go in their favour? Or does it only count decisions that are overturned?

To start with, for this to be a helpful measure first VAR actually has to be involved it all. If it chooses not to review it's not going to be included.

So yes it could be saying what you suggest... but it could just as easily be saying that these smaller teams get screwed over more often by on-field decisions which then have to be rectified by VAR. Or it could be saying that VAR tends to get involved for smaller teams only when it's 100% certain something will be overturned.

I think tin pot analysis like this that just states headlines but actually tells you nothing is counter-productive and has zero explanatory power. Even if on this occasion we appear to be the beneficiaries.
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True, it means little without a precise explanation of what it’s showing. I did have a little look to find the original article but didn’t come across it immediately and wasn’t that bothered to keep searching.
 
Not quite sure how the rags could possibly be the same points and place with or without VAR when they were given the biggest bullshit offside decision I’ve ever seen in the derby at old toilet.
It still pisses me off now even though we still won the title.
 
HypnoticBlue said:
Not quite sure how the rags could possibly be the same points and place with or without VAR when they were given the biggest bullshit offside decision I’ve ever seen in the derby at old toilet.
It still pisses me off now even though we still won the title.
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Won’t show up in any VAR related articles. It was an on-field decision that the VAR didn’t get involved in.
 
VAR is great and gets everything right.

Nothing suspicious at all about decisions when it comes to matches involving United.
 
There was me thinking the Scottish var was bent as fuck. Thanks England for surpassing it.
 
Howard Webb smirking as his orders to give the rags the Cup are in motion. We will never win a treble when English refs are around to prevent it. It simply won't be allowed.
 
VAR is a matter of personal choice, no fucking uniformity what so ever, his decision against Roma and his penalty decision today are the two most contradictory decision a ref could make, he doesn't deserves to be near any final
 
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