Lucas Paqueta investigated by FA for alleged betting breaches

[M16 citeh]

He’d be perfect for Moyes’ West Ham

Aye they're both shite

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Looking at all factors (clause, other players fees etc) 85 + loan would probably be fair.

I really doubt we pay more than we did for Gvardiol. The only way I can see us paying £85m for Paqueta is if West Ham give us our money back for Phillips.

 

[John Wayne]

Not possible. One loan only

He meant Phillips as a sale and Palmer as a loan.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I've just watched the customary Youtube highlights video, and now I'm excited about this.

 

[DeBlueLou]

I've just watched the customary Youtube highlights video, and now I'm excited about this.

Dont get too excited, nothing close yet ;)

 

[richards30]

The dipper deal may have fucked this to be honest with the price? Would we wait a year and do the release clause or if Pep is desperate now as it seems we want another top class midfielder do say £90m and Palmer on loan for a year?

 

[MafeotulBlue]

I just don't see City sending Phillips the other way round after a year. We have never done this after investing so soon.

 

[Blue Smarties]

The dipper deal may have fucked this to be honest with the price? Would we wait a year and do the release clause or if Pep is desperate now as it seems we want another top class midfielder do say £90m and Palmer on loan for a year?

Depends how much they want Palmer / if we can spell it out to Phillips. There’s incentives for them to get it done imo.

 

[DeBlueLou]

The dipper deal may have fucked this to be honest with the price? Would we wait a year and do the release clause or if Pep is desperate now as it seems we want another top class midfielder do say £90m and Palmer on loan for a year?

I've never been involved in these big deals but i cannot see, IF city and west ham are talking since monday+, that West Ham suddenly decide to up the price even more? Could be wrong.

 

[peter.evans]

All in all, as i said on Twatter, £75-£80 million pounds and Palmer on loan for a year with an option to buy will do the deal. It will probably take the whole package to about £110 million.

Wouldn't it be 75m less any fee we got for Palmer in a year ?! We won't be giving him away.

 

[Blue Smarties]

I just don't see City sending Phillips the other way round after a year. We have never done this after investing after only a year.

We’ve never been in a situation where we’ve clearly got it so wrong and have had opportunities to get rid early.

 

[Kamaro011]

Of course it is, but if the lad wants more playing time then I see it as an obvious move,now that the Scousers are paying £110M for their new midfielder.
He will certainly be back down the pecking order at City I feel,so a good move for the lad.

This my only opinion but i doubt Moyes want a player that will not be convinced joining West Ham. This is the reason of why he going for McTominay instead Philips.

If McTominay does get move to West Ham then it will closes Philips door to that club.

 

[Lord Blue]

Paqueta for Phillips seems fair to me since both players cost 50 last year

 

[DeBlueLou]

Depends how much they want Palmer / if we can spell it out to Phillips. There’s incentives for them to get it done imo.

Another incentive is not having an unhappy player and getting that big fee to use on new players.

 

[MafeotulBlue]

Wouldn't it be 75m less any fee we got for Palmer in a year ?! We won't be giving him away.

More than likely they will want another package worth around 100 million. It's how we package the deal.

 

[richards30]

Depends how much they want Palmer / if we can spell it out to Phillips. There’s incentives for them to get it done imo.

Phillips while having a great attitude backing himself needs to just accept that he just wont make it here?

 

[waspish]

And if West Ham really want Palmer, they cant just up the fee if they are currently speaking since midweek.

I'd sell him for 30m and have a high sell on clause of 25% to 30% I don't know about buybacks they rarely happen and depends on a player wanting to come back so a big sell on clause to a "selling club" is a better deal for us..

 

[Blue Smarties]

Phillips while having a great attitude backing himself needs to just accept that he just wont make it here?

He strikes me as the homesick type. Nothing in that, just my own hunch. Manchester is a lot closer to Leeds than Newcastle / London. That said, surely he realises he’s putting his career at risk. He certainly won’t be at the Euros if he stays here, imo.

 

[Asa's left peg]

I don't think we will give up on him yet given our previous experiences with players who 'failed' and then proceeded to become legends, but he may want to think about loosing his England place. Waistcoat will see lots of him in east London.

 

[richards30]

He strikes me as the homesick type. Nothing in that, just my own hunch. Manchester is a lot closer to Leeds than Newcastle / London. That said, surely he realises he’s putting his career at risk. He certainly won’t be at the Euros if he stays here, imo.

agreed! Pep and the club need to be honest with him as Kova will give Rodri a rest when required so he`s not getting that role either?