VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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Gray said:
If PGMOL want to be truly transparent then they should have their own web site which has every decision reviewed by VAR on tap for everybody to watch/hear.

Selecting incidents that have already been done to death by the media shows up that organisation for the rank bunch of amateurs they really are.

Before they allow us, the ticket buying match going fan, to be a party to any of their ponderings everything will have been heavily edited.

As people have pointed out Salah was clearly blocking the keepers view against Villa. Did VAR even revue it, and if they did what was the conversation?

PIGMOL are like a secret society there is absolutely no way you can contact them.
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They make Bilderberg group look open and transparent!
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Rashfords off side last Jan , Attwell was supposedly told by VAR "to let it stand to level things up" anyone else heard this and can verify ?? Or just rumours.

Clearly hugely damming and has massive implications if true??
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I would like VAR to release that conversation just to clear up why Rashford wasnt interfering. Until than its bent.

Problem is if it was released now they have had plenty of time to edit it or add.
 
give it to gordon said:
I would like VAR to release that conversation just to clear up why Rashford wasnt interfering. Until than its bent.

Problem is if it was released now they have had plenty of time to edit it or add.
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More chance of me shagging .................well anybody actually, but you get the drift.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Wtaf? Webb has now decided Ake's goal should have been offside? I don't know where I am with any of this any more.

Firstly, we all know Akanji was clearly offside in the spirit of the game, because he was in an offside position and the keeper had to wait until the ball passed him before completing his save, at least he had to delay it. But this is what they said after the Rashford non-offside decision. "

"The real case for discussion is about Ederson, and whether his actions would have changed had Rashford not been there. Perhaps, but Rashford doesn't impact the goalkeeper's ability to come and play the ball. He may affect his choice to do so, and how he might shape for a save, but the law doesn't discuss how a player might behave differently if the offside player isn't present; it only discusses the ability of an opponent to play the ball."

This was from Dale Johnson's article, but it is based on feedback given by the PL and PGMOL.

So now fast forward to Webb and Akanji. "It certainly appears Akanji has an impact on Leno the goalkeeper who seems to hesitate. We think it's a clear situation of offside, unfortunately it wasn't identified on the day. This was an error."

So which is it, for fuck's sake?

I used to think VAR audio would show the world that referees really do know what they are doing, and that they make sound, rational, even consistent decisions based on the laws and their guidelines. That was before the Rashford nonsense. Now this just confirms they make it up as they go along with nary a consideration of the actual LOTG or their idiot guidelines. They can all get fucked. Cunts.
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Good post. I listened to the ref/VAR talk through the Ake goal and thought fair play they are making sense. It would be better if they could be heard live at the match but at least they have been rational and come to a correct conclusion based on the laws of the game. That Akanji although in an offside position did not stop Leno making a save.
Then Webb steps up and out of nowhere introduces a 'delay' in the save that was 'obviously' caused by Akanji. Wtf?
I re-watched it a number of times and could see no 'obvious' delay. I saw him sorting his feet out but so what?
So at a stroke, Webb introduces yet more confusion and undermines his own officials.

And as for the Rag goal against Wolves 'sorry, we got that wrong' !! Everyone that saw it except the referee team knew it was a blatant foul and a penalty. 'A collision' ffs.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Good post. I listened to the ref/VAR talk through the Ake goal and thought fair play they are making sense. It would be better if they could be heard live at the match but at least they have been rational and come to a correct conclusion based on the laws of the game. That Akanji although in an offside position did not stop Leno making a save.
Then Webb steps up and out of nowhere introduces a 'delay' in the save that was 'obviously' caused by Akanji. Wtf?
I re-watched it a number of times and could see no 'obvious' delay. I saw him sorting his feet out but so what?
So at a stroke, Webb introduces yet more confusion and undermines his own officials.

And as for the Rag goal against Wolves 'sorry, we got that wrong' !! Everyone that saw it except the referee team knew it was a blatant foul and a penalty. 'A collision' ffs.
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apologising is not rectifying the direction of points to wronged team - so no fucking use whatsoever - the Howard Webb way.
 
117 M34 said:
Someone will hack the VAR system soon and every single audio since VAR was introduced will be released.
I think we may get some interesting information from it and a few sackings.
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From my understanding the comm's is encrypted, so it would be fairly difficult for your average Joe to hack.

The other problem is that PiGMOL/PL lawyers would be all over anyone who released, or attempted to release anything potentially incriminating.

Churchlawtonblue said:
Rashfords off side last Jan , Attwell was supposedly told by VAR "to let it stand to level things up" anyone else heard this and can verify ?? Or just rumours.

Clearly hugely damming and has massive implications if true??
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Same as above - PiGMOL/PL lawyers would be all over this like a rash.

I think the only way it's ever going to come out is if someone at the organisation has a crisis of conscience and blows the whistle on something potentially illegal. I seriously believe we'd be talking witness protection if that ever happened considering the amount of mobsters involved with professional sport finances.
 
var highlighting various shithousery situations, with retrospective punishments, a public game clock that would nullify time-wasting to a large extent. straight red for the so-called "professional foul", ie deliberate foul play, simple enough to put into practice, and would help to diminish the ever-present suspicion of corruption. Breath not held of course....The off-side situation, relying on perfect synchronisation of two events, with a technology that was never designed to be used with millimetre and nano second parameters could be resolved by scrapping a law brought in more than a century ago, when "goal-hanging" was a universal tactic. Bit like the scrum in RU, defended to the hilt by the luddites, who would rather see the game die than admit the bleedin' obvious.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
exactly. one point is often the difference between safety and relegation.
Webb really winds me up. He invents stuff to suit his argument.
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Another taking the PL money to supervise the incorrect decisions in favour of the chosen redshirt teams.

and presumably paid a fortune for lying to the masses on a regular basis in conjunction with Sly.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Another taking the PL money to supervise the incorrect decisions in favour of the chosen redshirt teams.

and presumably paid a fortune for lying to the masses on a regular basis in conjunction with Sly.
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There is no challenge from anyone. It is the national sport and is being allowed to become like bloody wrestling.
 
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