General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
I'd expect November or early December - the current govt get Christmas off, and Labour have to start with the holiday period.

Pushing it to January could mean a very short campaign - I doubt any party will be knocking on doors over Christmas as it'll just annoy voters.
 
I'll go May - things will be so bad for the Party and Sunak personally over the winter he runs the risk of a confidence vote - he will have a sub 60 seat majority by then which will make him more vulnerable to 22 c'ttee letters as fewer will be needed - un-met promises will have come home to roost shit you could have pensioners or kids freezing or starving to death if its a bad winter and already "his" press have started to turn on him. I don't believe he will want to face another conference so won't go the distance.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I'll go May - things will be so bad for the Party and Sunak personally over the winter he runs the risk of a confidence vote - he will have a sub 60 seat majority by then which will make him more vulnerable to 22 c'ttee letters as fewer will be needed - un-met promises will have come home to roost shit you could have pensioners or kids freezing or starving to death if its a bad winter and already "his" press have started to turn on him. I don't believe he will want to face another conference so won't go the distance.
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after the election he will be gone anyway, they will go truss2.0 or some such loon np matter
 
urban genie said:
after the election he will be gone anyway, they will go truss2.0 or some such loon np matter
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Assuming post sunak they double down on the lunacy you've got to wonder how it will impact the political landscape going forward.

You'll have an authoritarian hard right party that will naturally appeal to maybe 20% of the population and then increase from that depending on how crap the government of the day is but maybe with a lower ceiling than the old conservative party depending on quite how unpleasant/barking they are.

Assuming Starmer continues to steer his current course you'll have a centre/centre-right party that may become a home for those unprepared to lie in bed with whatever the Tories are becoming. It will be interesting to see how many of those people head for the Lib Dems v Labour.

But once the relief of getting rid of the current government disappates you'll potentially have a not insignificant number of left leaning people not happy with the Labour party especially if Labour leave certain aspects of Conservative legislation and policy intact.

If the Conservatives continue to insist on setting fire to themselves as well as the country, it's hard to see how we remain in the recent political status quo.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I'll go May - things will be so bad for the Party and Sunak personally over the winter he runs the risk of a confidence vote - he will have a sub 60 seat majority by then which will make him more vulnerable to 22 c'ttee letters as fewer will be needed - un-met promises will have come home to roost shit you could have pensioners or kids freezing or starving to death if its a bad winter and already "his" press have started to turn on him. I don't believe he will want to face another conference so won't go the distance.
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I tend to agree.

The supreme court verdict on the government appealing the illegality of their Rwanda will decide if they win.

Also felt like their conference was full on electioneering as will be Labours today.
 
bluethrunthru said:
The talk today is Farage into an easily winnable seat ( if they can find one at the GE ) and when he becomes MP there is a move to get him to lead the Tories.
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Compare the UKIP manifesto with the latest Tory policies. There's a lot of similarities.

That **** is joining them. Mind you even offering him a "safe seat" he could still lose it.
 
bluethrunthru said:
The talk today is Farage into an easily winnable seat ( if they can find one at the GE ) and when he becomes MP there is a move to get him to lead the Tories.
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Epsom and Ewell would seem an option now.

Although the anti-Farage vote may lead to an interesting result. Lots of publicity for the shy and retiring frogfaced one.
 
There are 2 Tory seats up grabs with By-Elections on October 19th:

Mid-Bedfordshire - Nadine Dorries and Tamworth (Tam'uth) - Chris Pincher.

Get hammered in them, Sunak should call an Election in December or early 2024.
 
tregyblue61 said:
There are 2 Tory seats up grabs with By-Elections on October 19th:

Mid-Bedfordshire - Nadine Dorries and Tamworth (Tam'uth) - Chris Pincher.

Get hammered in them, Sunak should call an Election in December or early 2024.
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'Should' is always going to be based on perspective.

From the govt position, they still have a big majority, not many who are serial dissenters and have another year's vandalism that they can inflict. They'll want to screw around with electoral systems a bit and make some more things irreversible.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tories plan is to try and turn the election in to a one issue referendum. And the most likely issue they will think they can get support, is over dealing with immigration.

I think these speeches we’ve been hearing lately from the like of Braverman, with ever increasing hostile language, is just testing the waters.

I think they will continue to let the asylum process become more and more clogged up. Become more and more of an issue with the public.

And then sometime next year come out with some radical barmpot plan of dealing with it. That even Starmer won’t be able to shy away from criticising.

Go to the country and declare the election a referendum as to whether you want to turn Britain into a third world country, overran with illegal immigrants, or let the Tories save the day with their tough but fair plan of dealing with it.
 
Stephen230 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tories plan is to try and turn the election in to a one issue referendum. And the most likely issue they will think they can get support, is over dealing with immigration.

I think these speeches we’ve been hearing lately from the like of Braverman, with ever increasing hostile language, is just testing the waters.

I think they will continue to let the asylum process become more and more clogged up. Become more and more of an issue with the public.

And then sometime next year come out with some radical barmpot plan of dealing with it. That even Starmer won’t be able to shy away from criticising.

Go to the country and declare the election a referendum as to whether you want to turn Britain into a third world country, overran with illegal immigrants, or let the Tories save the day with their tough but fair plan of dealing with it.
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Pushing immigration as an issue doesn’t fix any issues which we should be dealing with. The country is flat broke and we as tax payers are being hit with fixing the hole in the roof the Tories have caused by letting the likes of Truss have the reigns. This after 13 years of austerity and shrinking the state.

I want to see ideas of how we are going to get growth into the economy. How we are going to deal with inflation, how we are going to improve public services. The sinister pushing of what they call illegal immigration is a very strange obsession they have.
 
Stephen230 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tories plan is to try and turn the election in to a one issue referendum. And the most likely issue they will think they can get support, is over dealing with immigration.

I think these speeches we’ve been hearing lately from the like of Braverman, with ever increasing hostile language, is just testing the waters.

I think they will continue to let the asylum process become more and more clogged up. Become more and more of an issue with the public.

And then sometime next year come out with some radical barmpot plan of dealing with it. That even Starmer won’t be able to shy away from criticising.

Go to the country and declare the election a referendum as to whether you want to turn Britain into a third world country, overran with illegal immigrants, or let the Tories save the day with their tough but fair plan of dealing with it.
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People tend to vote with their wallets. He will be hoping for miraculous growth and a national epidemic of memory loss.
 
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