General Election - 4th July 2024

[urban genie]

They know thetly are done for so expect as late as possible while they feather their nests more and scorch the nation of assets and cash

 

[mosssideblue]

They know thetly are done for so expect as late as possible while they feather their nests more and scorch the nation of assets and cash

Totally agree. Their thinking will be to scorch the earth as much as possible between now and then to give Labour no chance of success.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Totally agree. Their thinking will be to scorch the earth as much as possible between now and then to give Labour no chance of success.

Exactly this.
It‘s party first, country and the people second.
It’s how the tories have always operated.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I'd expect November or early December - the current govt get Christmas off, and Labour have to start with the holiday period.

Pushing it to January could mean a very short campaign - I doubt any party will be knocking on doors over Christmas as it'll just annoy voters.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I'll go May - things will be so bad for the Party and Sunak personally over the winter he runs the risk of a confidence vote - he will have a sub 60 seat majority by then which will make him more vulnerable to 22 c'ttee letters as fewer will be needed - un-met promises will have come home to roost shit you could have pensioners or kids freezing or starving to death if its a bad winter and already "his" press have started to turn on him. I don't believe he will want to face another conference so won't go the distance.

 

[urban genie]

I'll go May - things will be so bad for the Party and Sunak personally over the winter he runs the risk of a confidence vote - he will have a sub 60 seat majority by then which will make him more vulnerable to 22 c'ttee letters as fewer will be needed - un-met promises will have come home to roost shit you could have pensioners or kids freezing or starving to death if its a bad winter and already "his" press have started to turn on him. I don't believe he will want to face another conference so won't go the distance.

after the election he will be gone anyway, they will go truss2.0 or some such loon np matter

 

[threespires]

Not soon enough

From so many perspectives. Quadruple like.

 

[threespires]

after the election he will be gone anyway, they will go truss2.0 or some such loon np matter

Assuming post sunak they double down on the lunacy you've got to wonder how it will impact the political landscape going forward.

You'll have an authoritarian hard right party that will naturally appeal to maybe 20% of the population and then increase from that depending on how crap the government of the day is but maybe with a lower ceiling than the old conservative party depending on quite how unpleasant/barking they are.

Assuming Starmer continues to steer his current course you'll have a centre/centre-right party that may become a home for those unprepared to lie in bed with whatever the Tories are becoming. It will be interesting to see how many of those people head for the Lib Dems v Labour.

But once the relief of getting rid of the current government disappates you'll potentially have a not insignificant number of left leaning people not happy with the Labour party especially if Labour leave certain aspects of Conservative legislation and policy intact.

If the Conservatives continue to insist on setting fire to themselves as well as the country, it's hard to see how we remain in the recent political status quo.

 

[bluethrunthru]

after the election he will be gone anyway, they will go truss2.0 or some such loon np matter

The talk today is Farage into an easily winnable seat ( if they can find one at the GE ) and when he becomes MP there is a move to get him to lead the Tories.

 

[TinFoilHat]

I'll go May - things will be so bad for the Party and Sunak personally over the winter he runs the risk of a confidence vote - he will have a sub 60 seat majority by then which will make him more vulnerable to 22 c'ttee letters as fewer will be needed - un-met promises will have come home to roost shit you could have pensioners or kids freezing or starving to death if its a bad winter and already "his" press have started to turn on him. I don't believe he will want to face another conference so won't go the distance.

I tend to agree.

The supreme court verdict on the government appealing the illegality of their Rwanda will decide if they win.

Also felt like their conference was full on electioneering as will be Labours today.