Middle East Conflict

At least Leo Varadkar has a pair of bollocks unlike the shithouses over here. They are more interested in arguing with the FA about wanting the Israeli colours on the Wembley Arch, While at the same time hundreds of children are being blown to bits in Palestine.
 
And 'sleepy Joe' and that Charlatan in Downing Street will say nothing. apart from 'we stand by Israel', any idea why dumb fuck Sunak has send the RN and marines there?, unless it's to help evacuate UK citizens why are we there? Is he looking for his Thatcher Falkands moment albeit on a much smaller scale?.
Sunak and Starmer were helped a bit into power (indirectly) by Jewish lobbyists and the Labour Party central office throwing an election. This includes Corbin’s failure to act on allegations of antisemitism. Rishi owes Israel so this limited show of force, alongside Joe’s more meaningful effort, is aimed at reassuring Israel and deterring anti Israel states.
 
I am old enough to remember when ( about 2 years ago ) Russia doing this in Ukraine was denounced by the International Community

 
cheap shot? Listen to how fucking stupid the man is - culture wars kicking them back in the face



What a fucking tool.

And of all the shows to try and do it on, the today show on radio 4?!

When the dust settles from this parliament people will look back at Grant “3 names” Schapps being defence minister as the perfect example of how pathetic and corrupt this government sank before it got kicked out, it’ll be like Alan Clark authorising machine sales to Saddam Hussain in the midst of an embargo or Amos caught dogging under the Major premiership.
 
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Sunak and Starmer were helped a bit into power (indirectly) by Jewish lobbyists and the Labour Party central office throwing an election. This includes Corbin’s failure to act on allegations of antisemitism. Rishi owes Israel so this limited show of force, alongside Joe’s more meaningful effort, is aimed at reassuring Israel and deterring anti Israel states.
This explains a lot:

 
A negotiated safe passage for some of the lower ranked fighters to go into exile. Families can go too if necessary.

Use a 3rd party non aligned military to guarantee that when they give themselves up.

Israel can target who it holds responsible for the attacks that remain in Gaza with targeted assassination. And play the waiting game.

Cut off the routes that have been used to smuggle weapons into Gaza and offer development aid in return for weapons.

It's all probably pissing in the wind but Hamas isn't just a blob of Death Cult. Within that faction there will be schisms of thought that want to avoid being obliterated.

If only the answer to an age old war was that simple.

There is not a chance Israel will let ‘low level fighters’ go off into exile. Those same fighters more than likely took part in a massacre last week. How would you even know who was lower ranked?

They’ve also been trying to cut off routes for years and haven’t been able to do it, especially when countries like Iran are supplying them.

Hamas as a group can’t continue, especially after last week. War might not be the right answer, but it’s not a shock to see Israel wanting to fight back against a massacre.
 
Tory bashing now.

Can you all not fuck off to your numerous other threads?

One trick ponies.

Eh, It's about the conflict. I seem to remember you bringing up Corbyn on multiple occasions on none political threads like these.

He said this on Monday -
It’s the Momentum lot. Had Corbyn won or still been leader, this lot would have been waving their flags again at conference as they are unable to hide their antisemitism.



I guess for @blueinsa keeping UK political rows out of this thread only applies to one side.
 
This is my issue, nobody is offering a workable alternative to Israel defending itself. War is fucking messy, but don't try and pretend Israel should just offer a stiff upper lip to the weekends atrocities.


There is an alternative it's just that nobody is actually saying it, Israel need to not exist it needs moving or be moved and no other solution is acceptable.

Hamas want them dead, you get the feeling that if Israel was uprooted and moved to bloody Kansas some Hamas nuts will find them and try to eradicate them.

Has anyone got a solution that Hamas would listen to?
 

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