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inchy14 said:
Why does immigration need to be curbed?
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It costs the taxpayer, it is dangerous for everyone involved. It can, and does, lower working conditions. It CAN contribute to crime. Undocumented people are safe, or not safe?

Should it not be curbed?
 
Aphex said:
It costs the taxpayer, it is dangerous for everyone involved. It can, and does, lower working conditions. It CAN contribute to crime. Undocumented people are safe, or not safe?

Should it not be curbed?
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Costs the taxpayers how?
How is it dangerous unless you just mean boat crossings? That’s not immigration though.
Lowers working conditions? We have a million vacancies?
Can contribute to crime. Have you not seen the English born stores out there?
Undocumented? If they were processed properly they’d not be undocumented would they?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
When it’s actually been an issue? To whip up the rhetoric to where we are now.

It’s fairly simple to process applications more quickly. It would cost a bit to train up more officers, but my best guess is that the owners of the hotels will be linked to some high up politicians and they all get a nice little earner whilst telling everyone else that the country is broken, it’s immigrants fault and the nasty ECHR stops us sinking boats in the channel.
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You’re not fully reading my posts mate.

This isn’t just a UK/Channel issue, it’s an EU/Med issue and one that costs way too many lives with no government able to stop as easily as many on here think able.

It’s not a Tory issue, it’s Europe wide and it’s soon to be a Labour issue.
 
blueparrot said:
We need more immigration, even the tories undersatnd that much even though they try not to mention it too much. As for asylum, it's simple, process the claim quickly and efficiently the majority will be approved and they can buikd a life work and contribute,easing the need for some immigration. Those that fail can if possible be removed.
Of course the sensible thing would be to open up legal routes for applicants, the government refuse .why?
There is no left wing agenda, you a very right wing government expoiting the situation for their own ends.
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It's basically an experiment. Only time will tell if you are right or wrong.
 
blueinsa said:
You’re not fully reading my posts mate.

This isn’t just a UK/Channel issue, it’s an EU/Med issue and one that costs way too many lives with no government able to stop as easily as many on here think able.

It’s not a Tory issue, it’s Europe wide and it’s soon to be a Labour issue.
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We can’t do anything about mainland European migration. We opted out.

If everywhere processed people quickly and efficiently and treated them as humans, then a lot of the issues would disappear.

Treat people like feral animals and the chance of them behaving like them increases.

As more countries become uninhabitable, the issue is going to increase, not decrease and for whatever reason, people can’t seem to cope at the low levels the U.K. actually have to deal with.
 
inchy14 said:
Costs the taxpayers how?
How is it dangerous unless you just mean boat crossings? That’s not immigration though.
Lowers working conditions? We have a million vacancies?
Can contribute to crime. Have you not seen the English born stores out there?
Undocumented? If they were processed properly they’d not be undocumented would they?
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People who come here to work are not immigrating, neither are the people on boats. We could start by clearing that issue up. Before we start clearing people we have to come up with a way to boot people out of the country more efficiently who fail asylum.

While we are at it we could clear out these shit jobs on zero hours and put people on proper hours so they can take the jobs.
 
Aphex said:
Are there no undocumented migrants in the UK?
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Not immigrants,also not asylum seekers either. Are there illegal immigrants no doubt, how many nobody knows because we don't know who they are by the very name they are illegal and when found are deported.
You seem to have no understanding of the differences between immigrant refugess and illegal immigrants which accounts for a lot of your daft statements.
 
BrianW said:
What do we mean by 'stopping immigration'?

Some immigration is economically necessary. This government recognises this by issuing literally hundreds of thousands of visas each year. It does not have to issue the visas. It chooses to do so because we need various types of expertise that are not generally found in dole queues. (Dave from the estate who is just about up to stacking shelves is a bit shit at performing heart operations or designing bridges.) This type of immigration is at quite a high level BTW by historic standards, but it is entirely legal and under government control.

The people in boats that people wank on about are 'asylum seekers'. It is legal for them to seek asylum. Around 80%, when processed, get approved which proves their claims are valid. The other 20% or whatever are presumably returned to wherever, where this is practical.

What changes to the above do people want?
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That's a good shout. Jacob Rees Mogg, the prick, made this point yesterday, i was amazed by his honesty. Legal migration is 600k per year, boats about 50k per year. If you really want to reduce immigration because you feel it is out of control you are focusing on the wrong one.

The reality for the UK today is you can have economic growth, or tight regulation and lower productivity. The planning and foresight to slowly reduce immigration while protecting economic growth has not happened. There has not been a single coherent immigration policy in 10 years. Add to this is that too many industries, agriculture, hospitality etc rely on.

The next one to go pop will be the university sector, the restrictions on Visa has decimated oversea applications. These have been a "export" for the country and a chance for university to charge higher fees without increasing the cost of home student fees.
 
inchy14 said:
Costs the taxpayers how?
How is it dangerous unless you just mean boat crossings? That’s not immigration though.
Lowers working conditions? We have a million vacancies?
Can contribute to crime. Have you not seen the English born stores out there?
Undocumented? If they were processed properly they’d not be undocumented would they?
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A lot of people who are not white identiifying are on benefits, in work or out. That's detrimental to the economy. Yes and white people too.

It creates a low wages if you flood the market, hence the crappy jobs

So you are happy that more crime is available?

There are undocumented migrants in this country, stop being silly
 
blueparrot said:
Not immigrants,also not asylum seekers either. Are there illegal immigrants no doubt, how many nobody knows because we don't know who they are by the very name they are illegal and when found are deported.
You seem to have no understanding of the differences between immigrant refugess and illegal immigrants which accounts for a lot of your daft statements.
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Haha. Ok mate.

I'm off work tomorrow so I'm not wasting no more of my time arguing. I'm comfortable having my opinion that bothers 99% on here, I'll live with it.
 
Aphex said:
A lot of people who are not white identiifying are on benefits, in work or out. That's detrimental to the economy. Yes and white people too.

It creates a low wages if you flood the market, hence the crappy jobs

So you are happy that more crime is available?

There are undocumented migrants in this country, stop being silly
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Aphex said:
A lot of people who are not white identiifying are on benefits, in work or out. That's detrimental to the economy. Yes and white people too.

It creates a low wages if you flood the market, hence the crappy jobs

So you are happy that more crime is available?

There are undocumented migrants in this country, stop being silly
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Most if not nearly all those non whites(bit of racism there) will not be immigrants just the same as most white people on benefits won't be immigrants. which raises more questions about our society than immigration or whatever you're talking about now.And what the fuck crime has to with it is just weird.
 
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I honestly don't know why people entertain him anymore. I know I'm on ignore. But seems to happen once every couple of months.

He pops makes several posts about minorities or gender benders and how he is the rational centrist, it's pointed out to him that he is closer to the fringes of Alt-right and correct him on factual inaccuracies, he storms off and then rinse repeat in a little while.
 
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