Middle East Conflict



It’s hilarious watching Biden continue to put on kid gloves with a foreign regime that wants him out of office and his opponents in instead. I wonder how long this plays out…
 
bluethrunthru said:
fuck me

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How do we know thats true? Seriously, everyone quotes twitter this twitter that without really knowing if its true. Both sides are trying to shock, both sides are doing massive massive propaganda drives. Hamas were telling us IDF bombed a hospital, IDF were telling us 40 babies beheaded. Why are people so keen to read, be shocked, hate. Frustrates me becausde the first thing I do is try find out the motivations of the tweets or the alliegiances.
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Soz not having a go at you and its probably true but fed up of hearing all this shock stuff when it turns out to be lies 90% of the time it seems.
 
Vic said:
Well, that's fine, except for what "began the whole thing". I watched three hours of the series "Israel and the Arabs - Elusive Peace" till the early hours (a follow up to the earlier series on what then was "the fifty years war") and October 7th was a continuation not a start. The failure of all the "road maps" to peace 25 years ago is just depressing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Israel and the Arabs - Elusive Peace - Series 1: 1. Clinton

What happened behind closed doors at the Middle East Peace Summit at Camp David in 2000 - and the reasons why the talks reached an impasse.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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I will grant anyone that finding the first instance of violence over the generations is both difficult and futile. However, it is clear that the precipitating factor in this latest violence was the Hamas incursion, murders, and kidnappings.

Like it or not, that gave Israel the preconditions for the hostilities. Since then, it can only be a question of “How much is too much?” or “When is enough enough?”

If I’m the Father of one of the kids that’s been taken, I’m advocating for “not before every hostage is released!”
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I will mate. It’s stood me in decent stead so far.

You not knowing what a tabloid journalist is a nonsense. It’s exactly why you post like you do. Your mind has been poisoned and it’s not nice conversing with you, so I’ll leave it there and allow others to debate with you, should they be arsed to do so.
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You sound like a delicate flower. What’s the issue?

You say I post like a tabloid journalist and I’m the bad guy?

You say I have a poisoned mind, but I’m the one that’s not nice to converse with?

I’d venture you don’t have a mirror!

I’ve done nothing but give open and honest replies and observations, but it sounds like anyone who challenges your worldview is uneducated (dares make a spelling error), not operating on your level, or simply “not nice.”

I’m sorry I don’t see the world through your eyes, but I thought that was what open discourse allowed. My mistake.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I will grant anyone that finding the first instance of violence over the generations is both difficult and futile.
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Sure it's difficult that's why you can't be arsed and consider it futile .....
ChicagoBlue said:
However, it is clear that the precipitating factor in this latest violence was the Hamas incursion, murders, and kidnappings.
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and end up telling everybody what they already know.
ChicagoBlue said:
Like it or not, that gave Israel the preconditions for the hostilities.
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Again. Everyone on this thread knows this.
ChicagoBlue said:
Since then, it can only be a question of “How much is too much?” or “When is enough enough?”
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Given you have fuck all else to offer why not elaborate? What's an acceptable death toll?
ChicagoBlue said:
If I’m the Father of one of the kids that’s been taken, I’m advocating for “not before every hostage is released!”
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.... and while you're at it try applying that 'if I was in their shoes' argument across the board and you might start to get somewhere.
 
blueinsa said:
Never takes long for this thread to morph into twitter/X again does it?
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I finally decided to give up and leave Twitter a couple of weeks ago… It was really not good for my mental health as I was getting angrier and angrier reading the posts about the Middle East and the marches here in the UK…

I feel like a weight‘s been lifted … I’d been on Twitter since it started pretty much
 
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