Middle East Conflict

I have literally no idea what you’re going on about and no interest in this tangent either.

The focus on the messenger (Scottish protester) rather than the message. Whilst overlooking the fact you've quoted two tweets from Zionist scumbags.

One gets triggered by the BBC reporting facts but sympathises with the extreme views from Douglas Murray and the other hacked phones.

If you are bothered by the messenger, don't quote apologists for mass murder.
 
The focus on the messenger (Scottish protester) rather than the message. Whilst overlooking the fact you've quoted two tweets from Zionist scumbags.

One gets triggered by the BBC reporting facts but sympathises with the extreme views from Douglas Murray and the other hacked phones.

If you are bothered by the messenger, don't quote apologists for mass murder.
I’ll quote whoever the fuck I like so long as what they’re posting is factual. Once again, you’re not a mod and you do not have to reply to every single one of my posts.
 
I've stayed out of this thread for quite a while as it's no good for my sanity
Same
I'd love Israel & the Palestinians to live side-by-side, in peace and security, in territorial integrity. I'd like to think you would too.
Takes like this don't help. Any idea of a 2 state solution died a generation ago and we are left with 2 solutions on the table....... and one of them is unfolding live on the telly.
But you only think one side is to blame, whereas I think both are.
For what? Both sides the atrocities sure but the lack of territorial integrity due to facts on the ground?

Only one side has the power to make that happen ..... it appears they have chosen something else.
 
As hostages?

If so it proves their stupid bloodlust. The world has seen who they took prisoner so they cannot "disappear" them. They will be holding valueless hostages but at the same time they are surely aware that if push comes to shove HAMAS will kill the hostages - if Israel obliges and floods the tunnel HAMAS will say Israel did it. As we are seeing here these r/w populist govt's have no strategy beyond the next day's news cycle
 
If so it proves their stupid bloodlust. The world has seen who they took prisoner so they cannot "disappear" them. They will be holding valueless hostages but at the same time they are surely aware that if push comes to shove HAMAS will kill the hostages - if Israel obliges and floods the tunnel HAMAS will say Israel did it. As we are seeing here these r/w populist govt's have no strategy beyond the next day's news cycle

You're attributing aspects of the Tories and Trump to Netanyahu that don't actually hold true. Netanyahu has thought strategically, the Israelis always have long term vision in keeping the Palestinians under their thumb.

It goes beyond the news cycle. It's not populism it's racial supremacy and fascism.

If some Israelis die as hostages in Gaza and he manages to stay in office, he doesn't care. It's not much to do with headlines. Israel is a deeply racist country and whilst it lacks the leader it needs it has the leader it deserves.
 
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Came across this solution a bit like N Ireland and the Republic two states and no border
 
I'm not cheering it, so you're wrong again.

I'd love Israel & the Palestinians to live side-by-side, in peace and security, in territorial integrity. I'd like to think you would too. But you only think one side is to blame, whereas I think both are.
I think that is very fair, but in that spirit it's hard to see how any decent nation could not support a ceasefire (both sides)
 
More than happy to stick around and offer my often differing opinions.

Much better for a discussion forum than an echo chamber don’t you think?

Consider me an often lone voice for a silent majority if you like ;-)
Nothing like someone speaking for a silent majority. How on earth do you know what a silent majority is thinking? They're silent.
 
I think that is very fair, but in that spirit it's hard to see how any decent nation could not support a ceasefire (both sides)
I'd guess it's because 'decent nations' have suffered thousands of deaths and injuries after Islamist terrorist acts on 9/11, 7/7 and the Arena bombing.

Of course you can't wipe out an ideology but you can wipe out the infrastructure that supports the ideology.

Hamas have cynically hidden behind the people they're supposed to be representing and their hope is that the more of those innocents die, the better it will be for them, as the more the pressure will grow for a ceasefire that protects them. If they really cared about Gaza, they'd negotiate to give up their weapons and leave the area, allowing someone who does care more about the poor innocents to come to a political solution that stops the slaughter.
 

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