PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Blueroses said:


Where does leave us. Baffled
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The PL are struggling to redefine FFP/PSR in a way that it continues to stop another City from happening, but doesn't affect the Scousers, ArseAnal, ManUre or their faithful lapdogs Spuds.

After spending 10 years labeling City as FFP cheats, it's killing our detractors who're now waking up to what FFP's all about, but who STILL can't drag themselves away from the anti-City cheats narrative.

A better question would be, why feel sorrow & empathy for Everton & Forest, whilst continuing to want the destruction of City?

Hammering Everton & Forest, then changing FFP rules immediately after just adds to the utter bullshit of the FFP we warned the sporting world about.
 
chaddblue said:
Need to check to clear up an argument

Have we actually been charged with anything?

Or, as I believe, the PL have made a number of allegations that will be heard by an independent commission who will then advise the PL if there are grounds to actually issue charges?
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My understanding is the PL are like the Dibble. They've investigated & accused us of breaching their FFP rules, then handed over their evidence to the Adjudicatory Panel (the local beak) to hear the case & issue a verdict & potential punishment if applicable.
 
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I heard on the radio that Forest will arge that they could have been much closer to the PSR if they had sold a particular player in June of last year, however they held off until July and recieved a fee of about £3million more.

As such they have done the best for the long term future of the club but also fucked themselves by the regulations, it's obsene what the PL are trying to do with these rules.
 
bitterblue78 said:
How can’t people understand that charges for 1/2 things is going to take a lot less time than dealing with 115 different charges when the 1/2 pled guilty & the 115 rejected the claim & has to be investigate further. You’d think it would be REALLY obvious but apparently not
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They understand it…… they just don’t ask the right questions like….

Why didn’t they just try us for 1 or 2 like Everton & Forest?
 
cheekybids said:
They understand it…… they just don’t ask the right questions like….

Why didn’t they just try us for 1 or 2 like Everton & Forest?
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I doubt most understand, they just see FFP / FSR and assume that City have broke it 115 times Very few have looked into the charges or what they maybe. Not one of our charges as a stand alone charge amount to anywhere near what Everton were accused of they breached FSR to maintain their PL status ate the expense of other clubs they then lied amount loans being for the stadium and also claimed many time more in Covid losses than the next a highest
Of the 115 we are accused of in fact breakdown to 5 on multiple years
 
Gordyola said:
I doubt most understand, they just see FFP / FSR and assume that City have broke it 115 times Very few have looked into the charges or what they maybe. Not one of our charges as a stand alone charge amount to anywhere near what Everton were accused of they breached FSR to maintain their PL status ate the expense of other clubs they then lied amount loans being for the stadium and also claimed many time more in Covid losses than the next a highest
Of the 115 we are accused of in fact breakdown to 5 on multiple years
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That is pretty much my understanding and if the lead charge of deception falls all the others apart from non co operation fall with it
 
Blueroses said:


Where does leave us. Baffled
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In no different a place. Not sure what point Keys and Grey think they’re making, it doesn’t matter if they change the rules at the end of the season. Clubs are charged related to rule breaches in a particular season, not against whatever rules are in place at the point of the charge.
 
meltonblue said:
In no different a place. Not sure what point Keys and Grey think they’re making, it doesn’t matter if they change the rules at the end of the season. Clubs are charged related to rule breaches in a particular season, not against whatever rules are in place at the point of the charge.
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Keys and Gray are just 2 shit stirring know newts. That's the point they're making. C#nts the pair of them
 
meltonblue said:
In no different a place. Not sure what point Keys and Grey think they’re making, it doesn’t matter if they change the rules at the end of the season. Clubs are charged related to rule breaches in a particular season, not against whatever rules are in place at the point of the charge.
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Thank you for that because damned if I could work out what the tweet meant.
 
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eastmanc said:
They are not experts on FFP and they definitely don't have a clue about City's finance's.
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It's mad how these sort of people can stand there, in front of a camera, being broadcast to hundreds of thousands of people, and show that they haven't a clue about what they are talking about. I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd be thoroughly embarrassed knowing people who actually do know their onions are sat there watching, shaking their heads at me, thinking what a pillock.
 
If the Forest thing is true it just shows what a farce it is, there's no other businesses in the World that's finances are as dissected as those of football clubs, often by people who could potentially be informing rivals, the clubs financial plans, it stinks and is totally wrong and is totally anti-competitive.
 
SiMCFC said:
If the Forest thing is true it just shows what a farce it is, there's no other businesses in the World that's finances are as dissected as those of football clubs, often by people who could potentially be informing rivals, the clubs financial plans, it stinks and is totally wrong and is totally anti-competitive.
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The Forest one makes no sense from a sustainability standpoint either. They could have sold Brennan Johnson earlier in the transfer window for £30m and I believe they would have passed the PSR. They rejected it and held out for £50m from Spurs later in the transfer window, which then put them in a new PSR year, which meant they failed the year before. Forest had to spend to survive, they had no players when they got promoted.

The PSR rules are also causing a major problem that nobody in the media is really talking about. It's forcing clubs to sell club grown players because they are pure profit from an accounting perspective. That's why Forest sold Johnson, that's why us selling Palmer was great and it's why Chelsea will sell Conor Gallagher. I cant imagine that is something the league or media wants to see keep happening.
 
Gordyola said:
I doubt most understand, they just see FFP / FSR and assume that City have broke it 115 times Very few have looked into the charges or what they maybe. Not one of our charges as a stand alone charge amount to anywhere near what Everton were accused of they breached FSR to maintain their PL status ate the expense of other clubs they then lied amount loans being for the stadium and also claimed many time more in Covid losses than the next a highest
Of the 115 we are accused of in fact breakdown to 5 on multiple years
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I’d love to know who instructed - and who approved - the framing of City’s charges in such a novel way, ie weaponised for maximum reputational damage. I’m hoping we’re all over that issue, because it was done for a reason and with genuine malice towards our club. And I hope, when we eventually win, we hang the bastard responsible by the bollocks from the PL Headquarters building.
 
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