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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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ChicagoBlue
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Politely as possible…Bollocks!It's not the KC who decided our fate it's the independent panel if we can call them independent. and it's human nature to have a small thinking of which way you are going to vote even before evidence and a lot of that will be based on what comes out through the media
These are sophisticated people who know their decision is going to be pored over by the greatest legal minds in Britain. They will be ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE and will certainly not be swayed by the nonsense being spewed by no-name pundits & journos!
When shit gets serious, the bullshit is shoveled out of the room so adults can do their work.
mac
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You must have been in a good mood. We never got the phone call from the cells after you sparkingh the fuckers out.Just stood there with a few lads when a group come up and just called us corrupt cunts that shouldn’t even be in the league , then a load of other shite to follow
Luckily I was in a good mood for some reason :)
casserole of nonsense
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A grateful nation would reward them with a life peerage, a cushy diplomatic post in the Maldives, generous expense accounts and a large country estate.What would happen if the deputy prime minister of the united kingdom was under investigation for major fraud of 14 years??.
Sk@mcfc
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Close , just realised laughing at the fuckers pissed then off moreYou must have been in a good mood. We never got the phone call from the cells after you sparkingh the fuckers out.
You are right in principle BUT the creation of the Al Jazera contract for Mancini was done by Pearce and City execs at the same time as his contract with City. So the PL will claim it was really part of his City income despite the fact that it was legally separate. We will no doubt claim privity of contract, ie not us, mate, but AbuDhabi.Do you happen to know what we didn't declare for Mancinis Al Jazera consultancy.
Years ago I used to do the Directors and highest paid employees remuneration table in the Company Annual Report as part of my job and I don't remember having to include payments from other jobs they held, just stuff like basic, bonus, share options, loans, pension contributions from the Company..
You'd only mention other directorships held but not payments received from that as I remember.
Without getting too much into it do you know what city are supposed to have not done that they should have ? I'm thinking any personal stuff was for Roberto's advisors to sort out, not City.
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Thanks, yep follow that.You are right in principle BUT the creation of the secondary contract for Mancini was done by Pearce and City execs at the same time as his contract with City. So the PL will claim it was really part of his City income despite the fact that it was legally separate. We will no doubt claim privity of contract, ie not us, mate, but AbuDhabi.
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Can we just post shit like this as screenshots? If we absolutely must share the opinions of no-mark gobshites from Twitter ar least do it in a way where you can't accidentally click on it and give them the clicks the sordid little attention seeking whores are so desperate for.
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Centurions
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Given the panel is getting picked by Murray Rosen who is a KC and will probably be one of the three members it's entirely bollocks. I'll be surprised if the other two (or all three if not Rosen) aren't KC's as well.Politely as possible…Bollocks!
These are sophisticated people who know their decision is going to be pored over by the greatest legal minds in Britain. They will be ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE and will certainly not be swayed by the nonsense being spewed by no-name pundits & journos!
When shit gets serious, the bullshit is shoveled out of the room so adults can do their work.
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Everton and Newcaslte fans now grouping us one of the cartel clubs is LAUGHABLE.
Thick as two short planks the lot of them.
They both voted for FFP, we didn't. Everton were also part of the 5 OG breakaway cartel clubs in 1992. They just couldn't capitalise on the increase revenue like the others.
Thick as two short planks the lot of them.
They both voted for FFP, we didn't. Everton were also part of the 5 OG breakaway cartel clubs in 1992. They just couldn't capitalise on the increase revenue like the others.
Centurions
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That's because the club are ran by adults, not children.The main thing that annoys me, is there seems to be no redress into the damage to our name, the club seem to have no backbone to the above, which again fuels the guilty image.
lust overlord
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It'll all calm down in a few days.
Then it'll flare up again when/if Forest and Everton get punished.
Rinse and repeat.
I'm bored of reading,and hearing the same nonsense from opposition fans and a bunch of dicks in the media pandering to them.
Plenty of the media are making some nice money out of generating hysteria amongst largely(willfully) ignorant football fans,so it'll run and run.
The fact that City's hearing has been sort of kicked into the long grass has been as much of a curse as a blessing.
Then it'll flare up again when/if Forest and Everton get punished.
Rinse and repeat.
I'm bored of reading,and hearing the same nonsense from opposition fans and a bunch of dicks in the media pandering to them.
Plenty of the media are making some nice money out of generating hysteria amongst largely(willfully) ignorant football fans,so it'll run and run.
The fact that City's hearing has been sort of kicked into the long grass has been as much of a curse as a blessing.
Just like BBC United, the Daily United is a Rag and Scouse infested media company.
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No surprise it's from a Liverpool fan. Note the the green and red likes and dislikes, 3 to 1.
The football media have done a sterling job on behalf of the PL and the red shirt clubs.
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Honestly, stop reading it!
The Mail, like most of the football media, are a utd and liverpool fanzine and even they think it has an agenda against them.
foggy1974
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I agree with what you are say but after seeing the clips on line of the woman mentioning sportswashing I am concerned.True. But I think an independent regulator will be fairer than the PL which sadlly has been shown to be corrupt. You can't have a situation where the person in charge is recruited by just a small cabal of clubs. And then that person becomes a puppet for the small cabal and makes decisions which favour the small cabal ahead of the interests of the other clubs. That is what happened at UEFA and what has happened at the PL. The senior members (from all parties) of the media and sport select committee know exactly what has happened and they will push through an independent regulator whatever the outcome of any future election.
The main thing that annoys me, is there seems to be no redress into the damage to our name, the club seem to have no backbone to the above, which again fuels the guilty image.
There is no damage to our name.
rags, liverpool and arsenal fans would hate us no matter what.
The club has backbone by creating an incredible winning machine. We're treble winners, going for 4 in a row, posting record profits, regularly the most watched team round the world.
You'll only think different if you read the shit that is in the UK football media... so Blues should stop reading it!
In any case behind the scenes City are very vocal if they think something crosses the line.
nmc
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I see in the press/media they are report the pl have set a date for ffp hearing. I thought the pl had outsourced this so how can the pl set the date
I guess it’s the same principle of outsourcing the sanctions to an independent panel’. Masters suggests a 10 points deduction, the ’independent panel’ steadfastly rejects this and then ‘independently’ comes up with a 10 point sanction all by itself. Remarkable or just fucking bent.
Everton and Newcaslte fans now grouping us one of the cartel clubs is LAUGHABLE.
Thick as two short planks the lot of them.
They both voted for FFP, we didn't. Everton were also part of the 5 OG breakaway cartel clubs in 1992. They just couldn't capitalise on the increase revenue like the others.
yep
And when the Super League takes off they will be left behind to defend for themselves, United/Liverpool don't care about anybody else but themselves, never mind football even at grassroots levels, they would shit all over you in an instant if it meant promoting their clubs.
1992 Sky Premier League United's idea and its baby should be the warning signs to the rest that they don't care.
They Mugged off everybody with the promise of live football being shown at their club's games, But what they didn't say is it had to involve United playing you,
United's money maker had everybody paying a subscription fee every month, that is where their money came from because in every live game show you got paid very well
foggy1974
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Under those circumstances, the rags would never be able to sign a player again & thats the whole reason of financial unfair playWhat also gets me is P&S should be there to help clubs. It should be "ok you've failed this key criteria, here's what's you need to do to get your books in order". If that means incoming transfer bans, forced player sales or assest sales then so be it but that should be the maximum punishment. Everton's case would be fine you're getting a new stadium so let's see how it goes when it opens but we don't want to see an increase on the debt in the meantime. Go public on the steps taken for each club and state if they break the steps then a pre-defined points deduction or fine will be issued. Everyone including the fans will know what's what that way and who is to blame if it goes wrong (ie the owners). Sensible approaches on a case by case basis not Draconian punishments crippling and ruining clubs with finger in the air punishments
I do fear it's going to be a stitch up and they'll want to appease the outpouring of anger. So no matter what evidence we provide, and with it being on the balance of probabilities, they'll move to the side of us being guilty of some of it.
It should be a proper independent court with recourse to the English courts. Not some poxy panel who will be influenced by the league, other clubs, their own bias and what's in the media.
It should be a proper independent court with recourse to the English courts. Not some poxy panel who will be influenced by the league, other clubs, their own bias and what's in the media.
The one thing I can never be arsed with when these ffp issues spring up is, the ample amount of 'know nothing' opposition fans and journalists that think they know everything about our case.
'There's no time bar like the UEFA CAS case' - CAS gave their verdict of innocence anyway so for a start that's wrong and the IC will be expected to follow English law of 6 years in this verdict too.
'City have failed FFP you can't tell me otherwise' - For a start none of the charges are even for that, they're for more serious accusations of false accounting.
'How can City have one of the highest revenues, they don't even sell out their ground' - The empty seats jibe has always been a coping mechanism, empty seats were almost never unsold seats and ticket availability in the last 2 years is non-existent almost. We win everything and progress in the Champions League every year. At this point it would be suspicious if United or Liverpool generated greater revenues than us.
There are loads more but it's like we need a FAQ for this case that we can just copy and paste from. It's tedious and boring how little people outside of the club know. Simon Bajkowski just did a good article in the MEN, fans don't care until they have self interest and unfortunately our rivals don't care for facts when it comes to this case.
'There's no time bar like the UEFA CAS case' - CAS gave their verdict of innocence anyway so for a start that's wrong and the IC will be expected to follow English law of 6 years in this verdict too.
'City have failed FFP you can't tell me otherwise' - For a start none of the charges are even for that, they're for more serious accusations of false accounting.
'How can City have one of the highest revenues, they don't even sell out their ground' - The empty seats jibe has always been a coping mechanism, empty seats were almost never unsold seats and ticket availability in the last 2 years is non-existent almost. We win everything and progress in the Champions League every year. At this point it would be suspicious if United or Liverpool generated greater revenues than us.
There are loads more but it's like we need a FAQ for this case that we can just copy and paste from. It's tedious and boring how little people outside of the club know. Simon Bajkowski just did a good article in the MEN, fans don't care until they have self interest and unfortunately our rivals don't care for facts when it comes to this case.