PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Blue.Roys.Son said:
What I don't understand is this, and maybe @projectdriver can help me out if I'm being thick.

Why are we all not going with the theory (instead of all this banging our collective heads on walls).. ...that if what we are charged with is true then the PL couldn't have charged us under football rules they would have had to report us to HMRC and the serious fraud squad?

This would surely have been a better way of explaining what's going on to all the haters and the uneducated press.
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Because it is wrong. The PL is handling alleged breaches of contract under civil law in the manner required by their rules.
 
Well thanks for the Video, that plastic surgeon did Jordan no favours at all, the **** can still use his mouth. On a lighter note is not strange that he believes City are guilty of FFP based on CAS saying that City did not co-operate, i have always believed you needed some evidence to start with?
 
Zabbasbeard said:
Stefan Borson's objective excellent diligent works highly informative and carries weight as well as putting ignorami like Jordan to shame. He thoroughly outclassed him.
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The incredible ease and willingness to simply dismiss and use ad hominem attacks on Stefan - we know due to tribalism - as some kind of blind incapable of rational thought, excuse maker focused on deflecting City of any charges type of individual is quite sad.

The man is a genuine expert in the area of finance and law who has demonstrated balance and willingness to accept that he may be wrong, and we know was a financial advisor within the club.

He's not just some muppet and because one has never heard of him before is not exactly a litmus test for qualifying one as an expert for an average fan.

This is the same individual when the charges were reported, if you listeded to that CitySpaces episode on Twitte/X that hundreds of thousands listened to (even Fernandinho!) did not sound like an excuse maker.

He painted about as bleak a picture as possible about what could happen to us and sounded deeply concerned.

And then of course compare that take to, I don’t know? Stefan’s prediction that was even published in the Daily Mail on the likely verdict for UEFA's case to CAS?

Was it spot-on or was he completely delusional and just "making things up" just to ensure City looked good?

How can someone so willing to attempt to be unobjective be so balanced?

It’s really sad that this is the state of things. But that’s what it is.

Happy days
 
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KS55 said:
Stefan was more certain of our likely defeating of the charges than he had been previously, I thought.
Note to Klopp: When we are cleared, if you say “It is a bad day for football” you will be banned from the Etihad and have your balls chopped off.
Rather, you should say: “Bollocks, City’s proven innocence means Pep will stay and that’s another five years without the title for us”
Karma.
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I think he has always been pretty clear in legal terms, he is just saying it in a more understandable manner to a wider audience now. Imho.
 
hammocity said:
One of my Blue mates was an Accountant at Anderson’s in Manchester, on the same street as the Little Yang Sing, (Charlotte street?).

He earned decent money but he told us the salaries of the Partners, it was eye watering amounts going back to that time, £150k plus big bonuses whereas he was on about £40k.

They all knew what was coming and my mate jumped ship with a decent payoff before the scandal broke and set up on his own, he actually took some of his clients with him and is still working at the age of 65, daft FOC.
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I’ve given it some thought & perhaps it’s a shame we didn’t allow the DJ to talk more about Enron. What they are accusing City is like the Enron scandal with fraud committed by the execs, partners & auditors but that’s why the accusations are ridiculous. It makes you wonder if people put pressure on Masters that way, scaring the shit out of him that City have committed that. Maybe that’s been the strategy behind the scenes with our enemies briefing client journalists how badly we’ve cheated.

And all because they don’t think Etihad can pay their bills.
 
cheekybids said:
I’ve given it some thought & perhaps it’s a shame we didn’t allow the DJ to talk more about Enron. What they are accusing City is like the Enron scandal with fraud committed by the execs, partners & auditors but that’s why the accusations are ridiculous. It makes you wonder if people put pressure on Masters that way, scaring the shit out of him that City have committed that. Maybe that’s been the strategy behind the scenes with our enemies briefing client journalists how badly we’ve cheated.

And all because they don’t think Etihad can pay their bills.
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I knew there had been severe punishments for Enron but just googled it and Jeffrey Skilling was sentenced to an initial 24 years custodial sentence in 2006 and was released in 2019.

If Jordan wants to accuse the Executives involved in our situation he needs to be very careful because he could be in deep shit coming out with false statements, I’m no expert but to take the stance he has surely has to put him at risk of at least a Civil action of defamation. I’d piss myself if he was ordered to cough up his last few million, wanker.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Don't get me wrong, I think it's gone from like 99% terrible coverage to 90% terrible coverage with a few people who seem to fully understand the case now even if they hope we get done for it. But I reckon there is movement.
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The Athletic, surprisingly, have turned recently with some very fair articles on the FFP situation. Like you, I hope it's the start of many more.

Fair is all we want, not sycophantic.
 
hammocity said:
I knew there had been severe punishments for Enron but just googled it and Jeffrey Skilling was sentenced to an initial 24 years custodial sentence in 2006 and was released in 2019.

If Jordan wants to accuse the Executives involved in our situation he needs to be very careful because he could be in deep shit coming out with false statements, I’m no expert but to take the stance he has surely has to put him at risk of at least a Civil action of defamation. I’d piss myself if he was ordered to cough up his last few million, wanker.
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A far easier case to prove ;-)
 
Looby_Blue said:
Simon Jordan, the man who, on live radio, pronounced the word hyperbole as 'hyper bowl'.

bellend!
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Simon Jordan, the English version of Donald Trump. Orange and loves the sound of his own voice and talks fucking bollocks.

Thing is he has a show with shouty Jim who is as sharp as a sausage, therefore appears brighter and smarter, but then again who wouldn't.
 
hammocity said:
One of my Blue mates was an Accountant at Anderson’s in Manchester, on the same street as the Little Yang Sing, (Charlotte street?).

He earned decent money but he told us the salaries of the Partners, it was eye watering amounts going back to that time, £150k plus big bonuses whereas he was on about £40k.

They all knew what was coming and my mate jumped ship with a decent payoff before the scandal broke and set up on his own, he actually took some of his clients with him and is still working at the age of 65, daft FOC.
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Strangely enough, I signed on for my articles at a one man firm on Tibb Street, but before I started the firm was taken over by Tansley Witt, a medium sized firm and then within two years they were themselves taken over by Arthur Andersens (probably the same time your mate was there - ask him about the big IBM luggable computers :) ). So this kid from Droylsden, who didn't go to university (I was one of the last who could qualify with one year college and four years articles, rather than three uni then three more) ended up qualifying with Andersens when I was barely 23. Good for the CV, but they didn't want us T.Witters, they just wanted the clients. So they sent me to Amsterdam for 6 months. Had a great time, not surprisingly, and joined Coopers in Rotterdam afterwards. Never looked back. So thanks to Andersens for kicking me out, but, by God, their auditing practices were ice thin. Not surprised they got burned at Enron.
 
Working on the assumption that City will be cleared and that the charges brought against City by the PL were based on suppositions rather than facts I wonder how many City fans will have suffered from mental health issues e.g. anxiety/depression, caused by the 115 charges. If the facts suggest that this was purely a witch hunt and an attempt to derail City, perhaps the PL will have a legal fight of a different nature from City's fans in the form of a class action.
 
Bez said:
Working on the assumption that City will be cleared and that the charges brought against City by the PL were based on suppositions rather than facts I wonder how many City fans will have suffered from mental health issues e.g. anxiety/depression, caused by the 115 charges. If the facts suggest that this was purely a witch hunt and an attempt to derail City, perhaps the PL will have a legal fight of a different nature from City's fans in the form of a class action.
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"mental health issues"

Please tell me your having a giraffe.

The only mental issues I will have that when we are cleared the club don't go after the accusers big time and hit them hard in the pocket.
 
Bez said:
Working on the assumption that City will be cleared and that the charges brought against City by the PL were based on suppositions rather than facts I wonder how many City fans will have suffered from mental health issues e.g. anxiety/depression, caused by the 115 charges. If the facts suggest that this was purely a witch hunt and an attempt to derail City, perhaps the PL will have a legal fight of a different nature from City's fans in the form of a class action.
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This is one blue who will never have mental issues over this. I couldn't care less really as I have lived through the 'tough' times and will always, always be a blue. Once a blue always a blue. CTID.
 
Bez said:
Working on the assumption that City will be cleared and that the charges brought against City by the PL were based on suppositions rather than facts I wonder how many City fans will have suffered from mental health issues e.g. anxiety/depression, caused by the 115 charges. If the facts suggest that this was purely a witch hunt and an attempt to derail City, perhaps the PL will have a legal fight of a different nature from City's fans in the form of a class action.
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If it’s good enough for scousers….
 
I watched a youtube clip of that fat Geordie fecker going on about FFP being there to protect the top 6, how unfair it is that they are unable to spend what they would like to. Somehow, the only club he seemed to focus on was us, the one club who has been telling the world what the true purpose of FFP was all along. What did make me laugh was how he went on about our "charges" but then discussed how Newcastles only hope of accelerating their spending is by using creative accounting and thinking outside of the box. Isnt this the very thing they are accusing us of?
 
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