Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

Blue Mist said:
For that to be true Brentford would have suffered in a similar manner to us. I cannot think of one instance last night where they could have moaned about a decision against them.
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Tbf, apart from the first 5 minutes, when Haaland flattened one of their defenders on the touchline. Not sure there were many more, though.
 
Blue Mist said:
I see no Defenders of the Ref have been on here yet !
How about this one. Foden is in full flow and blatantly pushed in the back to send him sprawling...... no foul despite Brentford getting several for the slightest contact.
Or, Doku is pushed making him miskick, the ball goes goes 40 yards back towards our goal. Advantage played. How is that an advantage ?
Or, nah, you know what, it's not worth it. It is so blatant and obvious.
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Again tbf, I am not surprised they don't come on this thread to justify what is clearly a minority opinion and always in an emotional debate after games. Personally, I would stay away, so kudos to them for contributing.

If I can defend referees a little, they have a very difficult job in increasingly difficult circumstances and are working for an organisation that does absolutely nothing to help their reputations at all. In fact, everything they do just seems to increase the levels of suspicion and distrust of referees. And, at the end of the day, they have all been promoted through the divisions, I suppose. They haven't all become incompetent when they get to the PL.

That said, I find it absolutely unbelievable that people can think an organisation that has spent 15 years trying to stop City from developing with new rules, investigations and, now, ill-advised allegations of fraud and deceit isn't capable of manipulating game results to maintain the value of its product. How can anyone expect the PL to act with sporting integrity on the pitch when they can't operate with organisational integrity off it?
 
halfcenturyup said:
Again tbf, I am not surprised they don't come on this thread to justify what is clearly a minority opinion and always in an emotional debate after games. Personally, I would stay away, so kudos to them for contributing.

If I can defend referees a little, they have a very difficult job in increasingly difficult circumstances and are working for an organisation that does absolutely nothing to help their reputations at all. In fact, everything they do just seems to increase the levels of suspicion and distrust of referees. And, at the end of the day, they have all been promoted through the divisions, I suppose. They haven't all become incompetent when they get to the PL.

That said, I find it absolutely unbelievable that people can think an organisation that has spent 15 years trying to stop City from developing with new rules, investigations and, now, ill-advised allegations of fraud and deceit isn't capable of manipulating game results to maintain the value of its product. How can anyone expect the PL to act with sporting integrity on the pitch when they can't operate with organisational integrity off it?
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Almost as if the PiGMOL are deliberately muddying the waters.
 
Blue Mist said:
I see no Defenders of the Ref have been on here yet !
How about this one. Foden is in full flow and blatantly pushed in the back to send him sprawling...... no foul despite Brentford getting several for the slightest contact.
Or, Doku is pushed making him miskick, the ball goes goes 40 yards back towards our goal. Advantage played. How is that an advantage ?
Or, nah, you know what, it's not worth it. It is so blatant and obvious.
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I was going mad last night about the ref, more so than usual but the foul on Doku which the ref then made a big show of signaling advantage was the straw that broke the camel's back. How can retaining possession 30 - 40 yards further back from where you were be more advantageous than a free kick further up the field. Same situation occurred against Chelsea when rather a free kick at the edge of the box being awarded advantage was played as we kept possession albeit right on the touchline. Another subtle way refs are screwing us over. Look at me playing the advantage to keep the game flowing rather than stop start all the time. Note to refs, it's not an advantage! Remember the ref blowing up when Jack was through on goal, it's all gone full circle.
 
Another quick one but in this instance it is NOT a go at the ref or linesman.
Early on the ball over the top, a Brentford player was clearly offside but ran on to it and Eddie had to dive at his feet. Only then did the flag go up. They were playing to the rule but the rule is stupid. Eddie has already been injured this season why cant the PL relax this joke of a rule ?
 
Blue Mist said:
Another quick one but in this instance it is NOT a go at the ref or linesman.
Early on the ball over the top, a Brentford player was clearly offside but ran on to it and Eddie had to dive at his feet. Only then did the flag go up. They were playing to the rule but the rule is stupid. Eddie has already been injured this season why cant the PL relax this joke of a rule ?
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He was clearly offside so the flag should have gone up. They are only supposed to keep it down when they aren't sure, no? That's why the defenders went crazy at the linesman. Who knows what could have happened? Again.
 
Dodge said:
Coote's a Forest fan. A client of mine plays cricket with him at Collingham CC, in Notts. He's quite open about it as well.
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Must be a good cricketer to play for Collingham. Also a love ground in a lovely setting right on thr river Trent
 
Blue Mist said:
Another quick one but in this instance it is NOT a go at the ref or linesman.
Early on the ball over the top, a Brentford player was clearly offside but ran on to it and Eddie had to dive at his feet. Only then did the flag go up. They were playing to the rule but the rule is stupid. Eddie has already been injured this season why cant the PL relax this joke of a rule ?
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I believe that after the two City injuries, Everton and Newcastle, that linesman were reminded that the delayed flag was only for really close calls and if they’re sure it’s offside, to get the flag up.

I did notice a couple shortly afterwards where they seemed to be following this guideline.

I’m behind the goal so have no idea how close the one last night was. But I did say to my next door neighbour that I think Toney, was it? pulled out of challenging Ederson because he knew he was off.

I actually like the rule when it’s applied correctly.

We had one at I think Wolves a couple of years ago where he looked miles off and everyone almost stopped but it ended up in the net and proved onside.
 
Cassandra said:
www.theguardian.com

Roberto Mancini questions Mark Clattenburg's role in Gareth Barry ban

Roberto Mancini has questioned Mark Clattenburg for reporting comments by Gareth Barry that led to the midfielder accepting a Football Association charge
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

This incident, in the derby game City were losing and in the last few minutes the ball went out of play and there was an exchange of words between Clattenburg and Barry, apparently initiated by Clattenburg. Rather than call the referee’s attention to it at the time he waited until after the game and made a complaint under the bringing the game into disrepute regulations. Barry was suspended for one game, which just happened to be against Clattenburg’s beloved Newcastle.
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Twattenberg is a horrible snidey corrupt shady fucker and a bald cheating bewigged bully who I wouldn't piss on if he was on fire. Other than that he's a shit ref.
 
Stephen230 said:
I believe that after the two City injuries, Everton and Newcastle, that linesman were reminded that the delayed flag was only for really close calls and if they’re sure it’s offside, to get the flag up.

I did notice a couple shortly afterwards where they seemed to be following this guideline.

I’m behind the goal so have no idea how close the one last night was. But I did say to my next door neighbour that I think Toney, was it? pulled out of challenging Ederson because he knew he was off.

I actually like the rule when it’s applied correctly.

We had one at I think Wolves a couple of years ago where he looked miles off and everyone almost stopped but it ended up in the net and proved onside.
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Is this role reversal, me defending them but you having a go :-) I'm on the halfway line and he looked 3 yards off to me. I assumed he was doing as instructed. I will state that refs are not given any help by those in charge. Constant rule changes and interpretation is not good.

I still think the ref was Brentfords best player.
 
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Blue Mist said:
Is this role reversal, me defending them but you having a go :-) I'm on the halfway line and he looked 3 yards off to me. I assumed he was doing as instructed. I will state that refs are not given any help by this in charge. Constant rule changes and interpretation is not good.

I still think the ref was Brentfords best player.
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Believe it or not, every post I make on here is an honest opinion. I don’t have any agenda.

I’ll have to wait until I see a replay to have an opinion on this one though. From behind the net, it’s just impossible to tell how close it was.
 
Iassel said:
Eh? He’s no longer allowed to ref Liverpool matches as he was the VAR when Diaz’s goal was disallowed.


I mean PGMOL know that, they’ve tried to weed many of them out for being either old or incompetent, but they got struck down to such an extent that the fitness test isn’t worthy of the name and refs can basically go on until 55.

If you take a look at the Championship it’s full of youngish refs now that PGMOL are fast tracking through so that they can have a wider pool and stop having to give the same old names important matches.
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When are they taken to the mind changing labs before becoming a Premier League ref ?
 
TShed said:
He eclipsed Alty tonight for his positional strategy of always cutting off at least 2 or 3 lines of passes in the final third he’d be a great addition cause it’s something we ourselves don’t seem very good at when defending
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I thought Brentford had given him instructions to man mark Akanji at one point.
 
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