PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

mancboy said:
The club are actually very smart with their silence, shooting down is never a good look from a pr standpoint and thats what city would be doing, answering back would give it credence it does not deserve, better to let it be known as hot air from a madman than give it any kind of credibility.
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There's a middle way which any good PR firm would be all over.

Around 2012 when we were facing our first FFP reporting periods, City let it be known that we had no intentions of profligately spending £1bn per season on the squad.

We explained we had a 5 year accelerated investment plan, whereby afterwards we'd seek to break even on our way to being sustainably profitable, & that's EXACTLY what happened.

However, blinded by their loathing & fear of us, few within football paid a blind bit of notice to our intentions. That's a PR failure on our part.

Going forward, I always advocate not making criticisms, unless you can back them up with an alternative, workable solution, & again City are failing on this score.

Now it's unhelpful if this "alternative way" came from City, as it'll be correctly called out for being self-serving, BUT we've enough friends in the media, on social media & finance professionals to disseminate our alternative vision for sustainability in football.

Have City ever proposed or supported a viable alternative?

If so, what is it?

It's so obvious to me that City should have been doing this from years ago.

Even on these pages, there's a menagerie of ideas as to a fairer & better way forward for football, but no absolute consensus that we can point out to our detractors & haters.

In the absence of City doing so, this is what we as fans should be putting forward ourselves. At the very least it's an alternative solution, & it will also provide a starting point toward finding a workable FFP/PSR system that protects clubs from reckless owners, but one which doesn't stifle ambition & sustainable owner investment.

Between us all, I'm sure we've got the brains & talent to do this, & I honestly believe it will shut up all the braindead opposition fans who find it easier to call for us to be demoted to playing Sunday League football at Hough End playing fields, than to actually pay attention to what the fuck is actually taking place in reality.

Just my considered thoughts on a way forward, & to tackle the constant bad press we receive. )(
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
Actually it's 7 and 2 before the PL.. the next one will put us at 8 PL titles and a total of 10.

That means we've dominated a whole DECADE worth of footy in the land.

Don't think we'll be a small club anymore then.. will have to shed some tears!
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I wrote eight premier league titles?
 
Dribble said:
There's a middle way which any good PR firm would be all over.

Around 2012 when we were facing our first FFP reporting periods, City let it be known that we had no intentions of profligately spending £1bn per season on the squad.

We explained we had a 5 year accelerated investment plan, whereby afterwards we'd seek to break even on our way to being sustainably profitable, & that's EXACTLY what happened.

However, blinded by their loathing & fear of us, few within football paid a blind bit of notice to our intentions. That's a PR failure on our part.

Going forward, I always advocate not making criticisms, unless you can back them up with an alternative, workable solution, & again City are failing on this score.

Now it's unhelpful if this "alternative way" came from City, as it'll be correctly called out for being self-serving, BUT we've enough friends in the media, on social media & finance professionals to disseminate our alternative vision for sustainability in football.

Have City ever proposed or supported a viable alternative?

If so, what is it?

It's so obvious to me that City should have been doing this from years ago.

Even on these pages, there's a menagerie of ideas as to a fairer & better way forward for football, but no absolute consensus that we can point out to our detractors & haters.

In the absence of City doing so, this is what we as fans should be putting forward ourselves. At the very least it's an alternative solution, & it will also provide a starting point toward finding a workable FFP/PSR system that protects clubs from reckless owners, but one which doesn't stifle ambition & sustainable owner investment.

Between us all, I'm sure we've got the brains & talent to do this, & I honestly believe it will shut up all the braindead opposition fans who find it easier to call for us to be demoted to playing Sunday League football at Hough End playing fields, than to actually pay attention to what the fuck is actually taking place in reality.

Just my considered thoughts on a way forward, & to tackle the constant bad press we receive. )(
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"You only want to change the rules because you got caught cheating"


...is what they'll say
 
Imagine winning the lottery and buying a massive mansion and all your neighbours club together to create a new town bylaw preventing any marine transportation vehicles on any property the day after you park a million dollar speedboat on the driveway
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Dribble said:
There's a middle way which any good PR firm would be all over.

Around 2012 when we were facing our first FFP reporting periods, City let it be known that we had no intentions of profligately spending £1bn per season on the squad.

We explained we had a 5 year accelerated investment plan, whereby afterwards we'd seek to break even on our way to being sustainably profitable, & that's EXACTLY what happened.

However, blinded by their loathing & fear of us, few within football paid a blind bit of notice to our intentions. That's a PR failure on our part.

Going forward, I always advocate not making criticisms, unless you can back them up with an alternative, workable solution, & again City are failing on this score.

Now it's unhelpful if this "alternative way" came from City, as it'll be correctly called out for being self-serving, BUT we've enough friends in the media, on social media & finance professionals to disseminate our alternative vision for sustainability in football.

Have City ever proposed or supported a viable alternative?

If so, what is it?

It's so obvious to me that City should have been doing this from years ago.

Even on these pages, there's a menagerie of ideas as to a fairer & better way forward for football, but no absolute consensus that we can point out to our detractors & haters.

In the absence of City doing so, this is what we as fans should be putting forward ourselves. At the very least it's an alternative solution, & it will also provide a starting point toward finding a workable FFP/PSR system that protects clubs from reckless owners, but one which doesn't stifle ambition & sustainable owner investment.

Between us all, I'm sure we've got the brains & talent to do this, & I honestly believe it will shut up all the braindead opposition fans who find it easier to call for us to be demoted to playing Sunday League football at Hough End playing fields, than to actually pay attention to what the fuck is actually taking place in reality.

Just my considered thoughts on a way forward, & to tackle the constant bad press we receive. )(
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Interesting.

Unless someone is prepared to financially underwrite such a campaign, or an 'agency' will take it on on a ' no fee' basis, enthusiastic amateurs are unlikely to proceed.

It'll be a very expensive drip, drip,drip of case copy.

Happy to help.
 
City is a business run by business people who are very wealthy and very clever. Otherwise, we would be Everton and have no chance.

The club won’t be hitting back in the media because that would show an emotional weakness. The stance appears to be, we actually don’t give a fuck.

You want to see commercial information- fuck you

You want a paper trail? Fuck you

You want emails from 3rd parties? Fuck you!

You want Mansour’s secret sponsorship password - fuck you.

I suggest we do the same now.

Fuck you media, fuck you dips, fuck you rags, fuck you arse, fuck you erm spurs!

It’s our club now fuck you.
 
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Dribble said:
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Have City ever proposed or supported a viable alternative?

If so, what is it?

It's so obvious to me that City should have been doing this from years ago.

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Perhaps they have but not in public, the trouble is there's too many Yank owned clubs. Going public wouldn't change the outcome and it's not in the owners nature to get into a public spat.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I can understand and live with the club’s current silence on the proceedings, and in actual fact it makes sense. The fear is when this all collapses, as it’s now pointing towards, that the response at that point is both effete and anodyne. That would seriously piss me off.
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IF we are cleared one of the WhatsApp clan or some over no mark will make a public actionable allegation for us. City just need to take them to the cleaners and the rest will stop
 
Kinkys Left Foot said:
You have to laugh. Gary Neville cannot understand how Citys revenue can be higher than uniteds. So let me get this straight Gary, the most publicised, Investigated, commented on sponsorship contract deals in World football, where the values for the major sponsors contracts were openly discussed and stated in court findings.

Where new shirt manufacturers sponsorship deal values are openly available on the Internet along with revenue from all competitions and you can include TV revenue in with that too.

Better still open sources like Swiss Ramble who do a fantastic job of laying it all out for you. Your rags have won next to fuck all in a decade where City have hoovered up silverware after silverware. Yet you still cannot understand? I'd suggest you're thick as a pisstone then Gary. Either that or you're lying through your back teeth to appease and confirm the conspiracy theorists amongst your dickhead twitter following and other morons who listen to your utterings on social media platforms. I suspect it’s the latter so just fuck off Gary, you're fucking boring us with your uninformed bullshit.
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He’s got more faces than the town hall clock that one. My boss - a United fan - said he heard Neville the other week praising City’s business model, yet there are other occasions where he’s giving ammunition to the conspiracy theorists about our revenue. Funny how there was no fallout over United’s deal with Chevrolet which resulted in the guy who brokered it getting sacked for giving them too much money. Surely that’s the very definition of an over-inflated deal in plain sight.
 
M18CTID said:
He’s got more faces than the town hall clock that one. My boss - a United fan - said he heard Neville the other week praising City’s business model, yet there are other occasions where he’s giving ammunition to the conspiracy theorists about our revenue. Funny how there was no fallout over United’s deal with Chevrolet which resulted in the guy who brokered it getting sacked for giving them too much money. Surely that’s the very definition of an over-inflated deal in plain sight.
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And team viewer

2 very dubious deals
 
Centurions said:
Perhaps they have but not in public, the trouble is there's too many Yank owned clubs. Going public wouldn't change the outcome and it's not in the owners nature to get into a public spat.
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That's why City putting forward a viable alternative wouldn't work, but if one was put forward on City's behalf, at the very least it'd show up FFP/PSR for the bullshit rules they are.

First & foremost, in what other business sector is an owner not allowed to invest his money into his business?

If saddling a club with debts is the issue, then all money over a certain level should only be share equity, & not owner/commercial loans levied against the club which can be called in.

This alone resolves the "Bad owner saddling the club with unsustainable debt" claims.
 
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citizen_maine said:
Everything we've done since the takeover has made sense. No-one is listening
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It makes sense to City fans, but because it didn't benefit other fans, they wouldn't listen & why would they?

The same way there's been over a decade of "FFP cheats" drip fed to the media, City can easily drip feed an alternative at arms length.

It's easily done & highly achievable.
 
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