PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Gorton_Tubster said:
Tbh I thought someone had to move into the stadiums or they become decrepid and fall down. And I didn't hear of utd or any other club going for them at the time.

So instead of that, if City right now were to ask for public money to move into a new stadium we all know what the answer would be. Even if we were still in Maine Road. Everyone would be shocked at multi billionaires asking for public money. The media would spin it against us.

And right now the media are being fed what to say by ratcliff and the utd corporate machine so that the country would come to accept that this is the right thing to do.
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It's why it's being framed as regeneration of the entire area, with all sorts of people backing it. Burnham as mayor pretty much has to support it; Neville's got stuff built there.

Extending OT means moving a railway or the stadium, which needs sanction way above the clubowners.
 
BeerIsTheBest said:
Taxpayer cash may be forthcoming to fund some changes to the rail infrastructure or transport or whatever but personally I can’t see any cash being given to actually upgrade the stadium.
For one; I read that a ‘can‘ the gvmt is kicking down the road is the need to refurbish the Houses of Parliament. The need is desperate and a paltry £20b is needed to do the job properly. The rail network is failing, HS2 still needs its truncated resolution, power generation plant is desperately needed, the motorway network is a basket case in places. There is a menu of gvmt infrastructure spend projects like hospitals (remember the new 20?..), schools, and the promises to keep on Northern rail infrastructure etc etc before a bailout is gifted to a multimillionaire tax dodger.
The country is financially bankrupt.
in my view if the swamp is redeveloped/rebuilt funding will come from private investment with associated debt with the payback to investors coming from the housing that’s created.
Burnhams just seeking an angle to help the development of greater Mcr. He’s a chancer and it would be wise for him to remember that a decent percentage of the folk he represents hate, or could not give a shit about the scum.
If you want a view on Coe read about his interest a few years back in the plans for the redevelopment of Chelsea stadium. In similar vein Scruffy Jim is using the playbook he used when he was interested in buying 50% of Barcelona.
Burnham, Coe, Scruffy Jim, Neville et al - just a club of charlatans.
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Embrace it, get on board to build a super stadium in Manchester fully owned by the council and used by both clubs return the Etihad as part of the deal then the council will have 2 grounds to maintain
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Tbh I thought someone had to move into the stadiums or they become decrepid and fall down. And I didn't hear of utd or any other club going for them at the time.

So instead of that, if City right now were to ask for public money to move into a new stadium we all know what the answer would be. Even if we were still in Maine Road. Everyone would be shocked at multi billionaires asking for public money. The media would spin it against us.

And right now the media are being fed what to say by ratcliff and the utd corporate machine so that the country would come to accept that this is the right thing to do.
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I think I’m right in saying United turned down the chance of moving to Eastlands before we got involved
 
Maly said:
I think I’m right in saying United turned down the chance of moving to Eastlands before we got involved
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Gary James wrote about it but not sure if anyone at the council ever confirmed it. Quite likely it did happen, it would be odd not to discuss what would happen after the games with any potential clubs, but it was probably only unofficially so there don't seem to be records of meeting agenda or even emails like you would have today. Not that emails are proof of anything, AS WE ALL KNOW. (Just putting that there for the hard of thinking journalists).

From my memory, I seem to recall that when Manchester was bidding for the Olympics the stadium design was much bigger (80k?) and there was also the backdrop of where the national football stadium was going to be built and that I only recall mention of the rags taking it on after but when it went to the Commonwealth design at only 40k there was less mention of them and then we were confirmed quite quickly. I suppose they were already at 55k (due to taxpayers money from Euro 96) so it probably didn't make sense at the time to move to a stadium which would be a similar size.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Tbh I thought someone had to move into the stadiums or they become decrepid and fall down. And I didn't hear of utd or any other club going for them at the time.

So instead of that, if City right now were to ask for public money to move into a new stadium we all know what the answer would be. Even if we were still in Maine Road. Everyone would be shocked at multi billionaires asking for public money. The media would spin it against us.

And right now the media are being fed what to say by ratcliff and the utd corporate machine so that the country would come to accept that this is the right thing to do.
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If they didn't have a tenant for a lot of these stadiums they'd either never be built in the first place or become white elephants haemorrhaging money for the local councils, regardless of what Seb Coe believes.

The chelsea prat is just being a dick.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Gary James wrote about it but not sure if anyone at the council ever confirmed it. Quite likely it did happen, it would be odd not to discuss what would happen after the games with any potential clubs, but it was probably only unofficially so there don't seem to be records of meeting agenda or even emails like you would have today. Not that emails are proof of anything, AS WE ALL KNOW. (Just putting that there for the hard of thinking journalists).

From my memory, I seem to recall that when Manchester was bidding for the Olympics the stadium design was much bigger (80k?) and there was also the backdrop of where the national football stadium was going to be built and that I only recall mention of the rags taking it on after but when it went to the Commonwealth design at only 40k there was less mention of them and then we were confirmed quite quickly. I suppose they were already at 55k (due to taxpayers money from Euro 96) so it probably didn't make sense at the time to move to a stadium which would be a similar size.
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ManUre were offered the stadium, but preferred to stay at the iconic Old Toilet.

With a new Wembley in the planning, the government decided they didn't want another stadium to compete & undermine the success of a new Wembley, so the CoMS plans were reduced from a £150m 80000 all seater stadium, with a retractable roof, to a 38000 all seater stadium, without the retractable roof.

CoMS was redesigned so it's capacity could be increased if needed to around 60000, but the retractable roof was dumped in the bin. £150m was deemed too much for City, but what was the eventual cost of rebuilding Wembley again?

The North ALWAYS gets the shitty end of the stick from those in the ivory tower of Westminster.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Billionaire Yank owner
Billionaire Shareholder

NO PUBLIC TAX MONEY

NHS Hospitals
Trans Pennine Railways
Illegal immigration control
Legal immigration
reduction
Manchester Metro & integrated transport

Yewnytid,Glazers & scruffy Jim are tax exiles, and rat has used government (public) tax grants on several occasions to build factory's at someone else's expense.

The fact that Yewnytid have chosen NOT to invest in their crumbling swamp or surrounding area is NO justification for using public tax funds to build a new one for them.

KILL this slippery idea NOW before it gains any momentum.

The task force is an ID line up of disreputable chancers & oppotunists, none of who live in Manchester.

NO PUBLIC TAX MONEY !!
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Did like that final Fall LP !
 
I opened a word document that I saved on my PC 395 days ago, I saved it because it was so good. Can't remember who originally posted it though.
Definitely worth a re-post where everything is still correct and not much has changed since:

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo (Klopp), constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!
 
Dribble said:
The North ALWAYS gets the shitty end of the stick from those in the ivory tower of Westminster.
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And talking of "towers", as I recall the biggest selling point which clinched the deal for Wembley was the retention of the '"iconic" twin towers, which were unceremoniously dumped from the plans before the ink had dried on the contract.
 
Pontypool Blue said:
I opened a word document that I saved on my PC 395 days ago, I saved it because it was so good. Can't remember who originally posted it though.
Definitely worth a re-post where everything is still correct and not much has changed since:

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo (Klopp), constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!
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@Bill the Blue

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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Just checked and he said something on Monday! https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/javier-tebas-man-city-finances-26173026 Haha damn! Well even so, just the one rant?? Very strange!
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Be wary of the retribution of a poud of flesh in that the liklihood is you can have it but are not allowed to spill one drop of blood else risk your own law suits.
 
If we win, City will have "discussions" with the PL about re-imbursement of our legal costs currently estimated to be £100m (corporate legal fees are approx £1K/hour !!!), plus they will "request" public statements concerning the true origin of the charges and they will be making some suggestions re Dicky Masters' career change. If the discussions become contentious then it will all go legal again.
At CAS2020 we had to pay this legal team...
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