North Stand Construction Discussion

[Centurions]

Skybar and the 658 premium seats at the front that everybody has an issue with.

I know you are gonna get pedantic and say they ain’t corporate - but most on this thread have an issue with them.

The Skybar is 100% corporate or hospitality and I don't know why anyone would think different about them. There'll be package deals with the hotel which on the face of it will look bloody expensive to me or you (presumably) but plenty will be queuing up to pay it and it'll be sold out every game.

The 648 padded seats at the front of tier 2 aren't corporate but GA+ (general admission plus) which means they'll be a little bit dearer than everything else around it. That isn't being pedantic, that's just actual facts (at least as of right now). It doesn't matter how many times people say they're corporate (or corporate lite as some have referred to them, which is just bollocks as no such thing exists) the simple fact is, they're not.

 

[bluesmith]

The Skybar is 100% corporate or hospitality and I don't know why anyone would think different about them. There'll be package deals with the hotel which on the face of it will look bloody expensive to me or you (presumably) but plenty will be queuing up to pay it and it'll be sold out every game.

The 648 padded seats at the front of tier 2 aren't corporate but GA+ (general admission plus) which means they'll be a little bit dearer than everything else around it. That isn't being pedantic, that's just actual facts (at least as of right now). It doesn't matter how many times people say they're corporate (or corporate lite as some have referred to them, which is just bollocks as no such thing exists) the simple fact is, they're not.

It depends what you class as hospitality or Corporate, The Skybar is going to be Tunnel Club level hospitality. The 648 seats are likened in the specs to Joes - which City class as hospitality, and have the benefits like access to away tickets, as opposed to 93:20 seats which don't have the same benefits and are classed as Premium Seats.

 

[Rorz88]

If they don't make a 'Blue Wall' home singing end and call it the Kippax then we've failed.

 

[Coatigan]

It depends what you class as hospitality or Corporate, The Skybar is going to be Tunnel Club level hospitality. The 648 seats are likened in the specs to Joes - which City class as hospitality, and have the benefits like access to away tickets, as opposed to 93:20 seats which don't have the same benefits and are classed as Premium Seats.

Which is still a whole world of difference to Corporate.

 

[bluesmith]

Which is still a whole world of difference to Corporate.

Corporate isn't a thing though. We don't have any corporate, when people say corporate, myself included they mean hospitality.

 

[Coatigan]

Exactly! I posted earlier its about when things arent going great during the game he needs the fans to be more vocal and not as quiet?

Yes Pep asks fans to be louder for certain games to lift a sense of complacency.

Fans interpret that as: start a committee to collectively project manage a 300m stadium development from the side. In case the club should 'fuck it up'.

That's not really what an 'us and them' mentality is that Pep was trying to to rally.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Me, or you?

You ....argumentative fecker !!

 

[Coatigan]

Corporate isn't a thing though. We don't have any corporate, when people say corporate, myself included they mean hospitality.

It IS a thing though. And people, yourself included are wrong when confusing the two.

Corporate, will be tickets open to anyone, bought often by, well corporations. I've been at corporate at the swamp (yes, rag, I know). It was a PR thing where a company took a bunch of folk out as a business expense outing. Myself, a Norwich fan, both wanting them to loose, and 4 people that had never watched a football game before, just there for the free shit. Uefa officials, sponsors, families, away players' entourages etc can all get into corporate.

It is a whole other ball game to regular fans of a club paying more for posher seats, boxed off areas (which the 648 are not btw) or access to a smaller bar next to other main bars. I have incidentally been in Joe's once too, and it really is night and day between that corporate, never mind this version of GA+ which has the same spacing and density as the rest of the stand and is not separated in any way.

 

[Coatigan]

You ....argumentative fecker !!

Ok, Agent Twattery.

 

[supercity88]

5% season ticket hikes for next season. Season ticket prices in general are still okay, although I fully appreciate it's at a tipping point for many. Hopefully it's a case of making up current shortfalls and they've already thought about pricing of the new stand, recognising the huge revenue from the sky bar can help deliver more value for the GA seats within it.

It provides the club with an opportunity to look at a more consistent pricing across the ground and incentivise the right people to move into the NS. I'm hopeful that the NS is offered as a good value compared to elsewhere in the ground but that prices are also frozen elsewhere and those that have to relocate don't have to fork out masses more and get some loyalty from the club.

I might be far too optimistic based on what's happened in recent times.

 

[bluesmith]

It IS a thing though. And people, yourself included are wrong when confusing the two.

Corporate, will be tickets open to anyone, bought often by, well corporations. I've been at corporate at the swamp (yes, rag, I know). It was a PR thing where a company took a bunch of folk out as a business expense outing. Myself, a Norwich fan, both wanting them to loose, and 4 people that had never watched a football game before, just there for the free shit. Uefa officials, sponsors, families, away players' entourages etc can all get into corporate.

It is a whole other ball game to regular fans of a club paying more for posher seats, boxed off areas (which the 648 are not btw) or access to a smaller bar next to other main bars. I have incidentally been in Joe's once too, and it really is night and day between that corporate, never mind this version of GA+ which has the same spacing and density as the rest of the stand and is not separated in any way.

Where on the city website do we sell corporate?
Corporate is companies buying hospitality therefore corporate is hospitality, whether a company buys it or an individual does exactly the same thing is provided.

With regards to Joe's City class it as hospitality so it's hospitality.

 

[levets]

It depends what you class as hospitality or Corporate, The Skybar is going to be Tunnel Club level hospitality. The 648 seats are likened in the specs to Joes - which City class as hospitality, and have the benefits like access to away tickets, as opposed to 93:20 seats which don't have the same benefits and are classed as Premium Seats.

Joes have the benefit of ‘access to a ballot’ for away tickets. I’ve been knocked back on many occasions.

 

[blueparrot]

Where on the city website do we sell corporate?
Corporate is companies buying hospitality therefore corporate is hospitality, whether a company buys it or an individual does exactly the same thing is provided.

Well neither whatever name you givit are what's being talked about for the 648 seats so who cares. These look to me nearer to 93:20 than Joes even, which is far from corporate or hospitality and will be filled with S/c holders probably same as 93;20

 

[Coatigan]

Where on the city website do we sell corporate?
Corporate is companies buying hospitality therefore corporate is hospitality, whether a company buys it or an individual does exactly the same thing is provided.

With regards to Joe's City class it as hospitality so it's hospitality.

I am saying the skybar will be corporate, as noted in the PA. Which is very different to the 648.

I never argued it wasn't hospitality btw, I argued it wasn't corporate.

Hopefully dedicated corporate then stops companies buying up hospitality, although I don’t really know if that happens in the main parts of the stand.

 

[bluesmith]

Well neither whatever name you givit are what's being talked about for the 648 seats so who cares. These look to me nearer to 93:20 than Joes even, which is far from corporate or hospitality and will be filled with S/c holders probably same as 93;20

It's literally in the spec that is to be like Joes. And joes is hospitality according to City.

 

[bluesmith]

I am saying the skybar will be corporate, as noted in the PA. Which is very different to the 648.

I never argued it wasn't hospitality btw, I argued it wasn't corporate.

Hopefully dedicated corporate then stops companies buying up hospitality, although I don’t really know if that happens in the main parts of the stand.

The skybar is hospitality, you won't find anything available from City described as corporate, as all hospitality is available to everyone.

 

[levets]

Where on the city website do we sell corporate?
Corporate is companies buying hospitality therefore corporate is hospitality, whether a company buys it or an individual does exactly the same thing is provided.

With regards to Joe's City class it as hospitality so it's hospitality.

Joes is hospitality, tunnel club is hospitality…. But are worlds apart.
Joes is GA+. Free parking, free programme, free welcome drink, padded seat. Nothing more.

 

[blueparrot]

It's literally in the spec that is to be like Joes.

Well the difference between Joes and 93:20 is mainly the extras and perks, think they get car parking and a free drink. So the spec on the plans makes no difference to the product.Just as easy to put Joes on the spec as 93:20. Does the Joes bar have a toilet? this doesn't and 93;20 don't think does,that was why thought it was closer to 93:20. Whatever though they both have regular fans in and are both far from corporate /hospitality.

 

[Coatigan]

The skybar is hospitality, you won't find anything available from City described as corporate, as all hospitality is available to everyone.

Excellent then. There is no corporate, and nothing to complain about. There is hospitality at the skybar level, and GA+ in the middle for more readily spending but not necessarily utterly silent blues. A people's stand that everyone wants. Problem solved.

 

[bluesmith]

Well the difference between Joes and 93:20 is mainly the extras and perks, think they get car parking and a free drink. So the spec on the plans makes no difference to the product.Just as easy to put Joes on the spec as 93:20. Does the Joes bar have a toilet? this doesn't and 93;20 don't think does,that was why thought it was closer to 93:20. Whatever though they both have regular fans in and are both far from corporate /hospitality.

I'm not sure what your point is? All I've said is Joes is hospitality and spec for those seats states its to be the same as Joes. You can dress it up all you like but that's the facts as of today.