PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

They have allowable deductions of around 35 million a year (infrastructure, academy, women, community) and they claimed Covid losses of around 40 million in 2022 (one of the few clubs to claim that in 2022, the rest just claiming 2020 and 2021) which the PL not surprisingly allowed apparently (but UEFA didn't, hence their fine). So even with those two numbers, they are well over the allowable losses of 105 million unless they have a much better than expected 2H (they won't) or they sell some players at a hefty profit (Mainoo to City for a cheeky 40 million in view of our new pally relationship?). No wonder they are pushing for new rules .....

I was joking about Mainoo. I think.
One United Liverpool or Arsenal facing action of FFP would end it surely you can imagine the size of the baying mob of one of there sets of fans. Liverpool especially horrible lot. Plus the media outrage

Would the premier league still punish clubs for historic breaches if FFP was finished ?
 
One United Liverpool or Arsenal facing action of FFP would end it surely you can imagine the size of the baying mob of one of there sets of fans. Liverpool especially horrible lot. Plus the media outrage

Would the premier league still punish clubs for historic breaches if FFP was finished ?

Very true, but Liverpool and Arsenal are safe. United is the one to watch.
 
Good Lord.....rely on BM for facts. You've have to very, very carefully choose your 'facts' on BM.

I like this thread for some of it's insights into FFP but my life the rest of the place is full of lunatics......
Actually a good point
I share your misgivings because like the old saying, any organisation or forum that accepts me as a member must be full of lunatics.

Perhaps I should have said that a bit like Mr Putin when watching football on most media we can almost guarentee it will not be pro City.
 
Good Lord.....rely on BM for facts. You've have to very, very carefully choose your 'facts' on BM.

I like this thread for some of it's insights into FFP but my life the rest of the place is full of lunatics......

:)

There are only facts on Bluemoon once you have eliminated the opinions, the guesses, the untruths, the downright lies, the conspiracies and the ramblings of the paranoid.

But don't knock it. Take those things out of RAWK and there is nothing at all left ..... this is a safe space in comparison.
 
In other news......Man uniteds 2024 half yearly financial results dropped into my inbox courtesy of Swiss Ramble.
So far the last 2.5 years are:
2022 = -150 million
2023 = -32 million
2024 = -5.5 million

On reviewing past performance 2nd half yearly results (out of CL) will be lots worse probably ending up similarly to last year, about -30 million.
I'm not sure how much they can claim for COVID related relief in 2022 but it will have to make a hole in -218 million or they might have to sell the Wythenshaw Tequilla Queen, Argentinian Romulan lookalikee or the Lancastrian Kilt wearing Tim Nice but dim.
Now that would be a laughingly interesting fire sale.

This post tells us all why the PSR rules have been ditched with immediate effect.
 
Listening to @projectriver latest podcast, he was saying something on the lines of if the prem league find us guilty it could be a bad thing for them. It got me thinking that if we were found guilty would some sort of authorities have to follow it up and possibly try put people in prison or some other serious sanction? If that was the case would the prem league or other authorities have to go to criminal courts?
What do i search under for his latest podcast please
 
Good Lord.....rely on BM for facts. You've have to very, very carefully choose your 'facts' on BM.

I like this thread for some of it's insights into FFP but my life the rest of the place is full of lunatics......
How can possibly say that? Have you not seen the cerebral work on the sub politics thread?
 
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Has anyone else noticed that the whole chelsea thing about dodgy payments to agents is being completely ignored….even though it’s admitted!
Stefan rightly still highlighting it but
Essentially if they are charged they are going to have a similar number of charges as us because o yes a number of payments over a period and will affect the numbers in accounts for years after

It’s almost like because they are shit no one cares
Surely the rules are the rules for everyone
Not just City
 
Listening to @projectriver latest podcast, he was saying something on the lines of if the prem league find us guilty it could be a bad thing for them. It got me thinking that if we were found guilty would some sort of authorities have to follow it up and possibly try put people in prison or some other serious sanction? If that was the case would the prem league or other authorities have to go to criminal courts?
The short answer is no.
I would suggest If they find us guilty it’s mission accomplished, give us a punishment and hope it’s over
They don’t give a fuck really about any of it they just want to knock us down
The reason Its taking so long is they know that can’t happen and we will fight every step
 
Has anyone else noticed that the whole chelsea thing about dodgy payments to agents is being completely ignored….even though it’s admitted!
Stefan rightly still highlighting it but
Essentially if they are charged they are going to have a similar number of charges as us because o yes a number of payments over a period and will affect the numbers in accounts for years after

It’s almost like because they are shit no one cares
Surely the rules are the rules for everyone
Not just City

I am sure they are investigating , but you know the PL. Everything secretly secret.
 
Listening to @projectriver latest podcast, he was saying something on the lines of if the prem league find us guilty it could be a bad thing for them. It got me thinking that if we were found guilty would some sort of authorities have to follow it up and possibly try put people in prison or some other serious sanction? If that was the case would the prem league or other authorities have to go to criminal courts?

The mere thought hasn't begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind.
 
Andy Burnham has just been on the radio talking about Everton and Forest. They tried to lead him down the City route but he wisely swerved it and skirted round the edges of the issue
 
Andy Burnham has just been on the radio talking about Everton and Forest. They tried to lead him down the City route but he wisely swerved it and skirted round the edges of the issue

Listened to that sorry he knows fuck all and all he did was put out more miss information! One example about why not have these points deductions start the season not now! Guess what the premier league clubs VOTED for it! They wanted all accounts to be looked at and punishment dished out at this time of the season!

Pisses me of you get the mayor of Manchester on who is so so lazy he does Zero research then comes on talking as an authoritarian on all subjects where people who listen will take it as facts!

These radio stations should be held up to fact check what they are spouting!
 
That's because they thought the rules applied only to dirty oil clubs and not them. Interestingly, have any other clubs been investigated, audited or had their accounts checked by the Premier League or do they just accept them in good faith?

They accept it in good faith!
 
What do i search under for his latest podcast please
Might be the one below but he has been cropping up all over the place in recent times including Talk Sport, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal pods as well as the business podcast (unofficial Partner) when he was a guest with Nick Harris. That was fun :) Also in recent years lots on 93:20 and sometimes discussed it all on x The City Spaces channel

 
I’d happily say that to his face.

Apart from the **** part, maybe…


That John Sitton clip is a classic!
Sitton’s autobiography is a work of art. An endless litany of pushing himself (and others) to the very limits - and beyond. It’s very, very funny. Self-deprecating but at the same time “taking no bollocks from others” stuff.

Very few books open with a line like “I was hanging on by the skin of my scrotum.”

Think he’s a taxi driver now l:
“Where would you like me to take you?”
“Wherever you decide.”
 

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