PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Coatigan]

Spot on. I remember listening to Talkshite one morning when getting a lift to work just after UEFA announced they’d banned us for 2 years. Somewhat incredibly, Alan Brazil of all people was one of a very small number in the media ever to actually suggest we might be innocent. He had Ziegler on the show and said something along the lines of “Well City have issued a statement saying they’re innocent of any wrongdoing. Surely that counts for something?”, only for that **** Ziegler to completely ignore what Brazil had just said.

I think the statements the club have issued, have not been given enough merit or mention.

Stefan has repeatedly pointed out that as a starting point, it would have to be considered as unlikley that deceit of this scale involving so many people has been carried out for so long. Based on basic logic as well audited books and evidence.

Well to me, the same goes for their statements. They are completely unambiguous, direct, and proclaiming total innocence.

To think we are guilty is then presuming the heads of the club, are outright lying.

Serious and significant people, with built up trust and worldwide connections, publicly lying. I don't see that. And that's before you bring cultural traits into it. While we all know about sportswashing and human rights in the Arab world, their cultural value of honesty is not often brought up.

Contrast for example, our statements on both the uefa and PL cases, to our 2014 statement, which while it set out a position of no deliberate wrongdoing, it was more reserved and did use the word like 'difference of interpretation', 'in normal circumstances' etc which left room for it to play out. These have left no doubt that the club are convinced they have done nothing wrong, and I think that should be mentioned more.

 

[cheekybids]

That was a calm and reasoned response on your part Stefan, not sure why Gorton has had a go at you. If you had behaved like Jordan there would have been far less credibility to the points you made. An ill considered fan like response would not have helped our case. Well done!

I completely agree, very reasoned, educated which removed the innuendo & emotion of Jordan’s argument.

 

[Bill Walker]

Just woken up - what's all this PM business then?

Didn't you get yours ?

 

[dickie davies]

I was listening on the radio, so missed the grimace.

It is very difficult, maybe impossible, as that's what he does for a living and despite his attempts to present himself as not anti City it is just an act he hates us with a passion.

They ask you one question and while you are trying to answer they interject loudly with another.

I suppose the correct response from you would be to match their levels of shit housery but I suspect you're too measured and too decent to do that.

What's required is your knowledge and a proper Manchester 'fuck off' attitude. Liam Borsan? Stefan Gallagher?

But realistically you needed to kick back with either "let me finish" or refute his current interjection as loudly and rudely as he made it.

Simon, I'm certain I was talking before you were interrupting

 

[Joe Donachie]

Sorry I was being flippant yesterday when replying to a poster. The information from Zin is the same info that was posted last week on FB.

Must remember to stop taking the piss on here.

WUM

 

[M18CTID]

Martin Samuels

Samuel has fought our corner for sure but he’s looking at this from the angle that it’s just allegations of breaches of FFP/PSR rather than allegations of outright fraud so he’s actually missing the point to an extent.

 

[Joe Donachie]

I don’t believe anyone knows anything on here, I think it’s all been made up and fabricated stories off people who do not have a scooby as to what is going on,

And these people who claim to be in the know, why don’t they reveal there source?? As far as I am concerned I will remain worried until we have a proper statement released from the club on the official website once a decision has been made.

 

[eastmanc]

I think the statements the club have issued, have not been given enough merit or mention.

Stefan has repeatedly pointed out that as a starting point, it would have to be considered as unlikley that deceit of this scale involving so many people has been carried out for so long. Based on basic logic as well audited books and evidence.

Well to me, the same goes for their statements. They are completely unambiguous, direct, and proclaiming total innocence.

To think we are guilty is then presuming the heads of the club, are outright lying.

Serious and significant people, with built up trust and worldwide connections, publicly lying. I don't see that. And that's before you bring cultural traits into it. While we all know about sportswashing and human rights in the Arab world, their cultural value of honesty is not often brought up.

Contrast for example, our statements on both the uefa and PL cases, to our 2014 statement, which while it set out a position of no deliberate wrongdoing, it was more reserved and did use the word like 'difference of interpretation', 'in normal circumstances' etc which left room for it to play out. These have left no doubt that the club are convinced they have done nothing wrong, and I think that should be mentioned more.

Very good post.

 

[GSW Blue]

I don’t believe anyone knows anything on here, I think it’s all been made up and fabricated stories off people who do not have a scooby as to what is going on,

And these people who claim to be in the know, why don’t they reveal there source?? As far as I am concerned I will remain worried until we have a proper statement released from the club on the official website once a decision has been made.

Believe what you want but don’t believe it here.

 

[Looby_Blue]

You got it right chump.

Thought so.

Thanks chum






























p.

 

[eastmanc]

I don’t believe anyone knows anything on here, I think it’s all been made up and fabricated stories off people who do not have a scooby as to what is going on,

And these people who claim to be in the know, why don’t they reveal there source?? As far as I am concerned I will remain worried until we have a proper statement released from the club on the official website once a decision has been made.

Proper City fan, pessimistic as fuck.:-)

 

[Norbiton]

Just woken up - what's all this PM business

Hi Rishi

 

[spacecadet]

I don’t believe anyone knows anything on here, I think it’s all been made up and fabricated stories off people who do not have a scooby as to what is going on,

And these people who claim to be in the know, why don’t they reveal there source?? As far as I am concerned I will remain worried until we have a proper statement released from the club on the official website once a decision has been made.

A journalist never reveals his/her source it is written in stone. Some of the itk people on here have links to that profession as well as our brilliant legal and financial members, who do a great job on here.

 

[cheekybids]

May the next article, video, podcast be posted that outright claims we have cheated & committed fraud because for all the “you don’t scare me” they aren’t saying what they were previously.

 

[langy]

We've been doing that for the last 6 years. Fulham will be the deal breaker.

Fulham have nothing to play for if we don't beat these even with a bent ref we don't deserve anything

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Have I got this right? There were no letters sent, meaning no percieved "position of strength", meaning we all allowed ourselves to foolishly get hooked on giddiness and ultimately made ourselves look like chumps?

Or have I got that wrong?

Has it been established that no C&D letters at all went out then? A bit disconcerting if true, given the obvious Blue bona fides of the original source.
Also, a bit like the “Etihad floating on the stock market - accounts to be revealed” story that did the rounds a couple of weeks ago and which everybody immediately seized on as evidence of imminent victory (myself included).
To what end then is this misinformation being leaked out?

 

[Cobwebcat]

I remember when the CAS verdict came out. City had no idea of the outcome and we won 2-1.

Before it was announced there were lots of rumours all of which proved to be speculation and were incorrect.

I’d love to believe something positive was going on now and I lap up the rumours but it’s more likely that there are no leaks and nothing has changed.

Understandably where there is no news people create their own both good and bad.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I remember when the CAS verdict came out. City had no idea of the outcome and we won 2-1.

Before it was announced there there were lots of rumours all of which proved to be speculation and were incorrect.

I’d love to believe something positive was going on now and I lap up the rumours but it’s more likely that there are no leaks and nothing has changed.

Understandably where there is no news people create their own both good and bad.

This. Half the charges will be gone by Christmas was rumour this time last year. Suppose it wasn't specified exactly which Christmas...

 

[dickie davies]

Cba reading 60 pages.

What have I missed?

SJIAC
But surely you knew that!

 

[Chris in London]

Remember, you can't make a silk purse from a pigs ear.

That you, Mr Ten Hag?

(If it is, I like your username)