General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%
  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%

  • Total voters
    468
Would you really give up the 5p plastic bag charge they won, just for PR?

Its now a minimum 10p but most charge 25 - 35p in my experience. Never ceases to amaze me what people do to avoid a small charge. Laughed my head off about 3 weeks ago when I saw a guy struggling to hold onto arms full of shopping rather than buy a bag and he didn't drop the rice, he didn't drop the loaf and he didn't drop the veg ....... no he dropped the gin ..... £15 worth of booze sacrificed for the sake of a 25p bag - he was really sticking it to "the man" until that point
 
all day Tories have been banging on about Sunaks pledge to give 16 - 17 year olds the vote ...... Tory K does her bit tonight by claiming a fake policy is the first policy idea from EITHER SIDE - the bias is naked and going to get worse

 
Its now a minimum 10p but most charge 25 - 35p in my experience. Never ceases to amaze me what people do to avoid a small charge. Laughed my head off about 3 weeks ago when I saw a guy struggling to hold onto arms full of shopping rather than buy a bag and he didn't drop the rice, he didn't drop the loaf and he didn't drop the veg ....... no he dropped the gin ..... £15 worth of booze sacrificed for the sake of a 25p bag - he was really sticking it to "the man" until that point

Or you could just pick it up and not pay for it. Scrunch it up if necessary or you might get lucky and have a young lady looking at her phone between assisting self-checkouts. (How a minimum wage treated like a robot job should be done tbh, can't stand the guys in blazers who take themselves too seriously doing that job or kids without common sense)

I was talking about this.

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First there was Rwanda. Then there was this.

I wonder who thought copying the policies of a middle eastern fascist state was a good idea.
It appeals to a sort of blazered fascist who reads the Daily Mail and will lap this up. 'Just what those young wimps need!' The said blazered fascist having never been in the armed services except in the fantasies in his head where he machine-guns brown people.
 
If I were 18 again, I would literally go to jail before being coerced into anything. The idea that the state has some right to your time is unconscionable to me.

so - the answer to 16 - 17 year olds voting is to conscript 18 year olds ........ think about that
 
It appeals to a sort of blazered fascist who reads the Daily Mail and will lap this up. 'Just what those young wimps need!' The said blazered fascist having never been in the armed services except in the fantasies in his head where he machine-guns brown people.

you need to be at least 84 to have done nasha - most of those advocating this never did it and - funnily enough - never volunteered to do service but the KNOW its needed - I am 63 this year and if I had their attitude I'd be claiming I fought and died at Verdun for their freedoms - thats how shallow this is and thats the Tories voter pool
 
Have people just read the headline and not the idea?

It’s not about getting 18 year olds running up hills singing “I don’t know what I been told”

I don’t like the Conservatives or Sunak but any idea that gets young people serving their communities once a month is a positive for society even under the guise of ‘National Service’. Why stop at 18? It would be a start for all ages to serve their communities even by small things like picking up litter or not dropping it in the first place!

It shows the state of politics that any positive idea is picked apart by the “other side”. Both sides should be actively encouraging young people to care about the place they live and the people they live beside.
 
This my vote lost already. No way my kids are being demanded to go off to the military or such. My contribution to society is the 10's thousands I have paid in taxes , you aren't taking my families time as well. One thing is for sure this soft introduction will ramp up if a future PM goes to war , the volunteering element will dissappear fast as an option straight away.
 
Have people just read the headline and not the idea?

It’s not about getting 18 year olds running up hills singing “I don’t know what I been told”

I don’t like the Conservatives or Sunak but any idea that gets young people serving their communities once a month is a positive for society even under the guise of ‘National Service’. Why stop at 18? It would be a start for all ages to serve their communities even by small things like picking up litter or not dropping it in the first place!

It shows the state of politics that any positive idea is picked apart by the “other side”. Both sides should be actively encouraging young people to care about the place they live and the people they live beside.
It's not even a "plan". They'd set up a royal commission to turn it into a plan.

They've let old people screw the young with Brexit, house building (lack of), voting ID, and the "idea" that you can rob a young person of a year (or even a few weekends for a year) is frankly ludicrous.

If Sunak had to give up a year of work, it'd cost him £2m... (not that that is "earned" income). Do you think Tory boys and girls would be exempt? Bring back Bevan boys and send them down mines. You know it would have been good for Johnson.
 
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It's not even a "plan". They'd set up a royal commission to turn it into a plan.

They've let old people screw the young with Brexit, house building (lack of), voting ID, and the "idea" that you can rob a young person of a year (or even every weekend for a year) is frankly ludicrous.

If Sunak had to give up a year of work, it'd cost him £2m... (not that that is "earned" income). Do you think Tory boys and girls would be exempt? Bring back Bevan boys and send them down mines. You know it would have been good for Johnson.
Senators son by creedance clearwater revival springs to mind
 

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