England Squad - Euro 2024

supercity88 said:
Using a song about not carrying the world upon your shoulders, to make an advert about him carrying England on his shoulders...love him or hate him the media are going to fuck this lad up. It's a good job he didn't come to the prem.

The BBC has the England training session streamed the other day. Bunch of locals watching. According to the live feed they were singing Bell-ing-ham when it was actually Harry Kane in a German accent. People need to calm down, if they'd watched him in the CL they'd see we are going to need more than just him to win this thing.
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As usual, the spectre of reputation raises its head and players won't play in correct positions due to idiotic selection.
England will not win this thing. In fact, I predict they will crash out at the groups.
I don't see anything to suggest that history will not repeat itself once we are away from our beloved Wembley. Even at Wembley England eventually fucked it.
Uefa virtually gave us the last euros by playing our games at home in the last tournament, and we still couldn't win it.
The nation gets played by the advertisers selling hope and glory, but the FA can't back it up with a manager that has the knowledge to succeed at any level of football.
And the fans are just as shambolic as the football staff. I await the next 2 weeks of embarrassing behaviour and drunken violence shaming us all, again.
 
Wot no Bluemoon Euro 2024 Fantasy Football League?

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burning blue soul said:
As usual, the spectre of reputation raises its head and players won't play in correct positions due to idiotic selection.
England will not win this thing. In fact, I predict they will crash out at the groups.
I don't see anything to suggest that history will not repeat itself once we are away from our beloved Wembley. Even at Wembley England eventually fucked it.
Uefa virtually gave us the last euros by playing our games at home in the last tournament, and we still couldn't win it.
The nation gets played by the advertisers selling hope and glory, but the FA can't back it up with a manager that has the knowledge to succeed at any level of football.
And the fans are just as shambolic as the football staff. I await the next 2 weeks of embarrassing behaviour and drunken violence shaming us all, again.
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We've always had the attitude we're the best and just had to turn up. Our coaching at youth level was shocking and on the European/World Stage it was therefore no shock we actually didn't perform at major tournaments. We've never had the players to keep the ball and control the pace of a game against top European teams so we always end up under the cosh and conceding. We believe the PL is the best and our players are the best and always overhype them, it's no different this time. Who in the squad has been a key player on the global stage in the biggest of games?

And if it's not the players we've had a lack of understanding or acknowledgement of the importance of tactics and formation - that they play just as much a part. Playing Scholes left midfield, playing Gerrard and Lampard together in a 4-4-2 etc. And even now we have a fixed system that doesn't work with the talent we have, it pigeon holes the talent into it. Southgate's been better than the majority before him, but English coaching and management is still a million miles away from its foreign counterparts.

Maybe we get some luck and we can overcome the major tournament hurdle but in a tough knockout game there will come a time where we are under pressure and we still lack the players to get a foot on the ball and control the pace of the game. That was shown in the friendlies against Brazil and Belgium.
 
burning blue soul said:
I've just realised that Connor fucking Gallgher is going to Germany, and Grealish stays at home.
Waistcoat is a fucking imbecile.
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I wonder if that was why some of the senior players went to Southgate to try to talk some sense into him. Gallagher runs around a lot, makes a few snide fouls and gives the impression that he is working hard. I don’t think he is the answer.
 
hilts said:
We don't have many good defenders so you would restrict our attackers by adding defenders worse than what we have, genius. In a squad 3 strikers is not overkill.

The friendly proved what exactly? Err nowt.
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We don't have many defenders full stop. There's 8 defenders for 4 positions. 1 has been injured since February and isn't yet fit and 1 breaks down in a strong breeze. It looks like we will start the tournament with 6 availablr defenders for 4 positions. We have 3 fit strikers for one solitary position and the main one doesnt get subbed.

It doesn't take a genius to do some very simple maths.

The fact we had to throw on a defender who isn't in the squad in thr friendly because we had nobody else proves how light on numbers we are. I don't understand what you're struggling to grasp here tbh, It's simple numbers
 
ninjamonkey said:
We don't have many defenders full stop. There's 8 defenders for 4 positions. 1 has been injured since February and isn't yet fit and 1 breaks down in a strong breeze. It looks like we will start the tournament with 6 availablr defenders for 4 positions. We have 3 fit strikers for one solitary position and the main one doesnt get subbed.

It doesn't take a genius to do some very simple maths.

The fact we had to throw on a defender who isn't in the squad in thr friendly because we had nobody else proves how light on numbers we are. I don't understand what you're struggling to grasp here tbh, It's simple numbers
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Here is simple math for you:-

Take the total number of players allowed in a squad

Take away the striker that will start upfront, Take away the striker that will cover if that striker is injured or suspended, Take away away a striker that may need to come on if we need all out attack towards the end of a game.


Now once you have taken away the massive number of 3, that's right 3 from the squad number see what number you have left.
 
kunaguero10 said:
Rice, Bellingham, Foden as a 3 seems an absolute no-brainer to me and a natural fit for all 3 of them. Rice as the sitting, Foden as the more advanced of the other 2 central midfielders and Bellingham as the more 'box to box'. Rooney nailed the point on the Overlap episode that was out yesterday. Of course, midfield positions can all be fluid and Bellingham and Phil can naturally interchange when they strike up a chemistry. People get so hung-up in their rigid thinking that a designated 'number 10' will spend the entire game in those 30 yards of the pitch.

Maybe I've been spoilt being educated by Pep's football over recent years, but it infuriates me when other teams fans come out with their naff, cautious opinions about how 2 defensive midfielders is crucial for England, when a progressive, positive approach is actually what will unlock the potential of these talented England attacking players. That goes for the clueless manager too.

The idea of shunting Phil out to the left wing to accommodate 'Trent' into a central midfield role is utterly ludicrous. Especially when Phil's dominance this year has come from the middle of the pitch, or failing that, off the right where he can cut in and shoot (and score) on his left peg. The left-wing role will nullify his most dangerous threats from this season.
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It's a no brainer to most of us but unfortunately not to Southgate.
It should have been

Saka Foden Rice Bellingham Grealish

christ knows what we're going to get
 
BerkshireBlue said:
It's a no brainer to most of us but unfortunately not to Southgate.
It should have been

Saka Foden Rice Bellingham Grealish

christ knows what we're going to get
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Palmer for Bellingham would have been a very good second option (possibly even to start) as then you've got a city and Arsenal mentality all across the midfield
 
hilts said:
Here is simple math for you:-

Take the total number of players allowed in a squad

Take away the striker that will start upfront, Take away the striker that will cover if that striker is injured or suspended, Take away away a striker that may need to come on if we need all out attack towards the end of a game.


Now once you have taken away the massive number of 3, that's right 3 from the squad number see what number you have left.
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You don't need another defender. We've got TAA who can play in defence. He's got plenty of options if others aren't fit. It's likely he'll look to play a consistent back 4 through the tournament so the rest are just cover ultimately. You're better have more attacking options where you need to produce a different threat. If Shaw doesn't get fit and Stones gets injured you still have options to form a back 4 with subs available.
 
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