General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
I see Garba’ge brought out the race/immigration card today. Says the election shouid be about that. Country is on its fucking knees. And set to get lower, or not recovering at least, to 2010 levels. The worst cuts to the NHS since its inception. Social Care, where literally thousands of of our most vulnerable people will have support cut, including overnight staff member. Left on their own, some for the first time in years. Schools neglected, in fact everything people need.

Of course we need to sort out a sustainable level of immigration, but we have bigger fish to wish we could afford. The Extreme Right are on the March, As they always do in times of economic and social tensions. They have the answer, it’s somebody’s fault and they know who. That’s how it starts and we all know how it ends.

Fuck you Nigel and all who sail in you. ****. You’ve made a career out of being a smiley face of Fascism.

Let’s see what areas vote his cunts in.

I away to watch the French. Oh and Stammers still a ****. In case anybody forgot.

Can’t have that.
 
blueparrot said:
Seems not as cut and dried as your perceptions.

VIOLENT BRITAIN? IT WAS WORSE IN THE 60s

Teenage violence is one of the biggest fears for people in Britain today - but the problem was actually far WORSE in the Swinging Sixties.
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
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Worth remembering A Clockwork Orange was written in 1962. That’s not a coincidence, there’s a reason it resonated.
 
blueparrot said:
Seems not as cut and dried as your perceptions.

VIOLENT BRITAIN? IT WAS WORSE IN THE 60s

Teenage violence is one of the biggest fears for people in Britain today - but the problem was actually far WORSE in the Swinging Sixties.
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
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Have a read, a sample size of 1000, almost an 8 out of 10 cats prefer Whiskas scenario. The people in their late 50s are talking about carrying a pen knife and stating that they wouldn’t use it. Big difference between that an a machete or the so called zombie knives that are prevalent now.

You also need to take account the willingness to report incidents and how the police categorise them. Watch the programmes where they are dealing with knife crimes in London, kids being stabbed and not willing to say who did it.

There is nuance in all of this, but growing up in the 80s and it may be that I lived a sheltered life, whilst there were fights, kids knew when to stop and someone pulling a knife was unheard of.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Realistically, if the Tories are going to implode, Reform will fill the vacuum. Any expectation that we will suddenly become left wing as a nation is fanciful. I therefore think Reform are here to stay.
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Labour isn't a left-wing party now though is it?

It's essentially the UK equivalent of Germany's grand coalition.

Realistically the Tories are likely to moderate and try to win people back around in 10 years time when people grow bored of the Labour party's "excesses".

Once the older voting block that makes up Reform's base dies off and the younger generations see the benefits of Labour achieving just some of their progressive policies then the appeal of the monkey-hanging party will be stunted.

If Reform UK does fill the vacuum they are likely to start arguing within themselves. Farage has controlled the party by not having a democratic structure. That's not sustainable when they occupy parliament in numbers, even less so if they were official opposition.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Worth remembering A Clockwork Orange was written in 1962. That’s not a coincidence, there’s a reason it resonated.
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A clockwork orange didn’t really become well known until Kubricks movie was released in the early 70s. Whilst the gangs of the early 60s did influence his writing, the extreme levels of violence depicted were understood to be based upon an attack on his first wife during WW2 by US servicemen.

https://www.anthonyburgess.org/a-clockwork-orange/

Anyway let’s hope whoever gets in ensures that there a shift towards a more equitable society and they stop the rot that has set in in some communities.
 
Who’s the third Tory voter?
We’ve got Brewster, Worsley has abandoned ship, that leaves another 2.
Come on, don’t be shy...
 
Kompany Car said:
A clockwork orange didn’t really become well known until Kubricks movie was released in the early 70s. Whilst the gangs of the early 60s did influence his writing, the extreme levels of violence depicted were understood to be based upon an attack on his first wife during WW2 by US servicemen.

https://www.anthonyburgess.org/a-clockwork-orange/

Anyway let’s hope whoever gets in ensures that there a shift towards a more equitable society and they stop the rot that has set in in some communities.
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Good info, thanks. And I agree, it’s all a bit by the by, it is a problem that we should take seriously as it’s symptomatic of a lot of other failings.
 
Two thirds of council-run youth centres have closed

Research by the Unison trade union has found that more than two thirds of council-run youth centres in England and Wales have closed since 2010 - with 1,243 facilities closed and just 481 still in operation by the end of March 2023. By the end of the year, fewer than half of councils still operated their own youth centres, the union said, arguing closures are leaving vulnerable young people at greater risk from issues ranging from drug and knife crime to mental health challenges. Unison's head of local government, Mike Short, said years of council funding cuts "have hit hard and left vulnerable youngsters high and dry", while a "decade and more of austerity has undone much of the previous good work and created a lost generation of youngsters".
 
Vic said:
Two thirds of council-run youth centres have closed

Research by the Unison trade union has found that more than two thirds of council-run youth centres in England and Wales have closed since 2010 - with 1,243 facilities closed and just 481 still in operation by the end of March 2023. By the end of the year, fewer than half of councils still operated their own youth centres, the union said, arguing closures are leaving vulnerable young people at greater risk from issues ranging from drug and knife crime to mental health challenges. Unison's head of local government, Mike Short, said years of council funding cuts "have hit hard and left vulnerable youngsters high and dry", while a "decade and more of austerity has undone much of the previous good work and created a lost generation of youngsters".
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I was reading up on the National Citizen Service, and it said that from 2014-2018 it gobbled up 95% of all government spending on youth services!
 
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