Jude Bellingham

Great goal, sublime.

At some point it’s going to bite you on the arse, you cant carry a player for 90 minutes praying he gets you a goal, Southgate’s hill to die on though as it seems Bellingham is immune to getting subbed.

When we’re out of possession there’s nothing worse than seeing a player walking around, run around ffs and try and get the ball back.

He dives like fuck too, not sure how he got away without a booking when he tried diving for a pen, Lee Dixon reckoned he slipped lol.
 
Never had anything against him before this tournament so will give him the benefit of the doubt.

But for an obviously talented player there's never been a 10 that sees or makes decent passes less.

Singlehandedly neutralising Phil and Saka by taking 20 seconds to dribble into the first man and crawl about on the grass a bit
 
Don Karleone said:
Is the consensus that he was shit apart from the goal? Like properly shit. He saved Southgate his job.
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That seems to be the consensus yes. I didn't think he was shit. He wasn't that involved really barring one or 2 decent bursts forward with the ball that had their defence backing off him. Subdued in the main like he's been most of the tournament.

I'm somewhere in the middle with him. The hype around him is pretty gross he's nowhere near as generational as we're being led to believe. I think he's got quality and is capable of being in the right place at the right time with moments of quality like his goal tonight. I also think he's operating at close to his potential because of his physicality at a young age..leads me to think he'll hit his peak pretty early.

Equally I think the hate towards him from some is just wasted energy and clouds the judgement of some when it comes to his own performance and influence on the team. This England side is full of good enough players to take responsibility for their own performances. We're entitled to expect more from every single player in that squad so far in this tournament.
 
His movement is absolutely pony. He is never on for the pass - always wants to be on the end of the move or the one who delivers the key pass. He’s Mr Ego, everything has to be about him. Great goal today but for 90 mins he huffed and puffed and got in the way. Foden will probably lose his place in the side now (that’s a different conversation) but he will remain.
 
The "who else" tells you everything you need to know about him and the people around him at the moment. It's all about brand Bellingham and he really doesn't give a fuck about the team. It's the reality for a certain type of high ability but narcissistic footballer in the modern world of EA cards and fanboys of individual players. Fake Ronaldo and the rivalry with Messi created it and now we will forever have this kind of shit including from lesser players such as Bellingham. His role models will be fake Ronaldo and Mbappe, not the likes of Rodri or Modric.

If he can win a tournament with this approach he'll be fine but if not people will tire of him. Doubtless he'll have a big moan at that point and go about 'tall poppy' syndrome but the reality is if you are going to be an arrogant prick then you'd better be able to back it up. The better alternative would be for him to grow up a bit and play like it's a team sport. That would be a win win all round but that depends on him and his entourage caring enough about anybody else 'winning' other than him.
 
Jwoody19 said:
His movement is absolutely pony. He is never on for the pass - always wants to be on the end of the move or the one who delivers the key pass. He’s Mr Ego, everything has to be about him. Great goal today but for 90 mins he huffed and puffed and got in the way. Foden will probably lose his place in the side now (that’s a different conversation) but he will remain.
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We knew all this before the tournament.
He's become so obsessed with himself he stifles the creative energy from the rest of the team. It's OK when he plays for Madrid as he sees the other players as his equals. Even for them his form in the second half of the season was pretty ordinary...
 
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