General Election - 4th July 2024

[Don Karleone]

Who do you think can make this country any better, as we can all agree, it’s got progressively worse?

As it stands right now, the Green Party imo. It has got progressively worse, mainly because we try the same shit over and over again.

Maybe this time it'll be different, I hope it is. I see more of the same leading to an even more right-wing party taking control.

 

[TinFoilHat]

As it stands right now, the Green Party imo. It has got progressively worse, mainly because we try the same shit over and over again.

Maybe this time it'll be different, I hope it is. I see more of the same leading to an even more right-wing party taking control.

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2028

 

[bluenova]

As it stands right now, the Green Party imo. It has got progressively worse, mainly because we try the same shit over and over again.

Maybe this time it'll be different, I hope it is. I see more of the same leading to an even more right-wing party taking control.

You'd hope there's a ceiling to the right wing parties. Reform are picking up lots of protests, and the Tories are as hated as ever by their own voters, but even then, Farage is still likely to get stuck at 15%.

I was watching some Party Political Broadcasts earlier from 2010, and Cameron was making out he was as progressive as they come. They had one ad with a woman working at a homeless charity, and it was all fluffy, positive, let's all work together and make things better.

Clearly it was nonsense - I was working a lot with the voluntary sector at the time, and his Big Society idea coincided with some of the most brutal cuts ever in the voluntary sector. But that's the narrative it took to beat Labour, rather than any of the hateful nonsense that Farage is peddling.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

That can’t be an official Tory ad?

The only people that would have any pull for would be the paranoid, who ain’t gonna vote. Any other person would be asking questions of such stupidity.

It was a joke mate.

Jesus..

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

As it stands right now, the Green Party imo. It has got progressively worse, mainly because we try the same shit over and over again.

Maybe this time it'll be different, I hope it is. I see more of the same leading to an even more right-wing party taking control.

I’m hoping that Labour hold to their word of a centre-left party, steady the ship and do what they can in the first term, and make headway in the second. In the meantime, the other political parties find themselves and one of them steps up to challenge.

This may be a changing of the political outlook.

 

[mosssideblue]

Tories that desperate, they plead the help of a proven liar with blood on his hands to try and save them.

Hopefully, this will backfire massively ( as it should).

Give claiming Sunak and Johnson are their Kane and Bellingham is frankly embarrassing

Roll on tomorrow

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Tories that desperate, the plead the help of a proven liar with blood on his hands to try and save them.

Hopefully, this will backfire massively ( as it should).

Give claiming Sunak and Johnson are their Kane and Bellingham is frankly embarrassing

Roll on tomorrow

Well they are both pushed by the BBC and can't be trusted to perform or turn up so maybe he's not too far off.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Welcome to what one would hope is the last day of 14 years of Tory misery.

 

[Blue Maverick]

48 hours to go tik fucking tok you twats.

 

[blue for life]

The day is nearly here. Thank fuck!

 

[jim tolmies perm]

T minus 22 hours 37 minutes to judgement day...

 

[Blue Maverick]

Well the first Tory minister on GMB just admitted they are going to lose.

 

[Vic]

Would it not be an idea to actually look at the statistics then, rather than incorrectly referring to ‘most’ mortgage holders?

Most mortgages are fixed rate so as they expire, most mortgage holders will be impacted by the Truss budget. It's already affected 3.5 million mortgages - that's already half of those who were on fixed mortgages when Truss struck. By the end of this year, including those on variable or other not-fixed rates, most of all mortgage holders will have been impacted. More than a million people* facing higher rates by January 2025 may be one reason Sunak didn't want to wait - plus the "demographics" that their voter base is reducing daily and being replaced by people becoming 18.

* A million mortgages, so as most mortgages are held jointly, closer to 2 million voters. That 3.5 million mortgages already affected means around 6 million voters.

 

[Vic]

When you say "seize their assets" do you mean steal my investments, pension, shares, the things I have worked hard for my whole working life..?

Wumming or just not grasping the point? No-one was suggesting seizing assets.

 

[Nethermoor]

Most mortgages are fixed rate so as they expire, most mortgage holders will be impacted by the Truss budget. It's already affected 3.5 million mortgages - that's already half of those who were on fixed mortgages when Truss struck. By the end of this year, including those on variable or other not-fixed rates, most of all mortgage holders will have been impacted. More than a million people* facing higher rates by January 2025 may be one reason Sunak didn't want to wait - plus the "demographics" that their voter base is reducing daily and being replaced by people becoming 18.

* A million mortgages, so as most mortgages are held jointly, closer to 2 million voters. That 3.5 million mortgages already affected means around 6 million voters.

My mortgage deal ended last year in December. Went from 1.5% to 5% (ish) or around £400 a month more. Although we added to the mortgage too, but not enough for £400 a month.

We opted for a 2 year fixed this time in hope that after this election the rates come down again

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

 

[west didsblue]

Most mortgages are fixed rate so as they expire, most mortgage holders will be impacted by the Truss budget. It's already affected 3.5 million mortgages - that's already half of those who were on fixed mortgages when Truss struck. By the end of this year, including those on variable or other not-fixed rates, most of all mortgage holders will have been impacted. More than a million people* facing higher rates by January 2025 may be one reason Sunak didn't want to wait - plus the "demographics" that their voter base is reducing daily and being replaced by people becoming 18.

* A million mortgages, so as most mortgages are held jointly, closer to 2 million voters. That 3.5 million mortgages already affected means around 6 million voters.

Thanks Vic.
Seems I might have been right with “most”, but due to being on holiday couldn’t be arsed checking.
Wonder why the Tories on here have been trying to downplay the impact?

 

[Dubai Blue]

Absolute fucking bellend right to the very death

They can't possibly believe this shit. It's not much of a deterrent if there's much, much more chance of never being sent there.

 

[mosssideblue]

They can't possibly believe this shit. It's not much of a deterrent if there's much, much more chance of never being sent there.

I also don't believe the shit they are spouting saying the refugees are waiting in Calais until after the GE

 

[East Level 2]

Johnson looked like an absolute bag of shite today. He doesn’t look like he’s in a happy place at all.

He might be in a happier place when he's leading the party again. Won't happen if they get a truly humiliating defeat, but I expect him to challenge for the leadership at some point in the next few years. His ego demands it.