General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
How will labour improve this country ? Brown destroyed uk pensions

What could labour have done differently in covid?

Maybe Tory’s should have brought national debt down while rates were so low
 
Hutchymcfc said:
Interest rates have gone up around the world , not just the UK
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No shit Sherlock but unless you were living on Mars at the time, mortgage interest rates in the UK rocketed as a direct result of Kamikaze Kwarteng's budget and are still far from correcting themselves. In fact, the situation would've been miles worse if the Bank of England hadn't stepped in with a £50bn bond-buying package. Did that pass you by when it happened?
 
metalblue said:
There was a news report the other day when the family crossing were told it was 100% safe. You may be overestimating their understanding of the dangers from the comfort of your own knowledge. I suspect their understanding on Rwanda human rights and the UK's policy of deportation is going to be pretty low as well if they can be convinced that going across the English Channel on an inflatable is safe.

All of which dooms said policy to making any difference whatsoever to the number of people who attempt it. IMHO.
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Precisely, I agree, they are either guarded from the facts - or they are aware of them and are taking the risk anyway. Either way it doesn’t work.

I think deterrents are a vastly overrated concept in general. They tend to be flawed at quite a basic psychological level, e.g. the death penalty is an objectively weak deterrent. Drug prohibition likewise.

Across all of these topics there’s a consistent thread that threatening a punishment is far less effective than actually addressing the symptoms.
 
Hutchymcfc said:
How will labour improve this country ? Brown destroyed uk pensions

What could labour have done differently in covid?

Maybe Tory’s should have brought national debt down while rates were so low
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Brown absolutely did not destroy UK pensions.

For reference.

FactCheck: Did Gordon destroy our pensions?

Has, as George Osborne claims, Gordon Brown single-handedly destroyed the pension system?
www.channel4.com
 
Hutchymcfc said:
How will labour improve this country ? Brown destroyed uk pensions

What could labour have done differently in covid?

Maybe Tory’s should have brought national debt down while rates were so low
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Fuck me, there's some serious straw-clutching going on here. Have a read of James O'Brien's book How They Broke Britain and you might actually find that for Brown's faults - and I'm not even sure destroying uk pensions is one of them - it was HE who secured an agreement amongst the world's leaders to go with his proposal for navigating our way out of the 2008 global banking crisis.
 
Hutchymcfc said:
How will labour improve this country ? Brown destroyed uk pensions

What could labour have done differently in covid?

Maybe Tory’s should have brought national debt down while rates were so low
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I retired 3 years ago. My pensions are ok - they are enough to get by on. Maybe Brown forgot to raid the companies I worked for or maybe you are buying a story fed to you.

Not have used it as a way to enrich yourselves and your mates and spend a fortune on over priced stuff whilst freezing professional regular suppliers out of the market.

Never gonna happen they are SELF - then PARTY - then COUNTRY
 
Hutchymcfc said:
How will labour improve this country ? Brown destroyed uk pensions

What could labour have done differently in covid?

Maybe Tory’s should have brought national debt down while rates were so low
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Corbyn would have implemented a universal basic income paid for by taxing the richest and their corporations.

We'd have been in lockdown sooner and probably followed the new Zealand model of getting rid of it saving the economy billions by listening to science over flogging contracts to make our mates rich.
 
M18CTID said:
No shit Sherlock but unless you were living on Mars at the time, mortgage interest rates in the UK rocketed as a direct result of Kamikaze Kwarteng's budget and are still far from correcting themselves. In fact, the situation would've been miles worse if the Bank of England hadn't stepped in with a £50bn bond-buying package. Did that pass you by when it happened?
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Rates went up rough the same around the world

There messed the bond market up , it’s boe who do interest rates
 
mosssideblue said:
Tories moaning and trying their best to prevent a huge Labour landslide. Maybe should be looking in the mirror and see why they face this.
Hope they get obliterated tomorrow
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They are throwing Hail Marys out left right and centre in a desperate attempt to smear and discredit Labour.
The only ones stupid enough to fall for it were always going to vote Tory or reform anyway.
Fuck’em. Their time in the sun is done and they’ve left the country With dark ominous clouds above.
Labour may not be the utopia that some hope for but they will be a breath of fucking fresh air in comparison to the corrupt, selfish egomaniacs who they replace.
 
M18CTID said:
Keep clutching at those straws sunshine. Your beloved Tories are facing an election wipeout and it's all their own fucking doing
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I actually don’t give a shit who gets in as there all the same just different badge
 
TinFoilHat said:
Corbyn would have implemented a universal basic income paid for by taxing the richest and their corporations.

We'd have been in lockdown sooner and probably followed the new Zealand model of getting rid of it saving the economy billions by listening to science over flogging contracts to make our mates rich.
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Getting rid of what?

Every country couldn’t get ppe, do you think labour would have got ppe

Lockdown earlier and shut the economy down costing more money
 
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