General Election - 4th July 2024

[KS55]

So the only way for republicans to change the law requiring the oath of allegiance is to take the oath of allegiance as a condition of taking their elected place in the legislature?

Yup. Typically British

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Exactly. He owns 53% of the party and it is utterly beholden to him in spirit and electoral necessity. Farage is willing to do some pretty grubby stuff for money, cameo videos saying up the Ra for 60 quid etc, him owning a company like that will tempt his worst instincts. I also think he will be an awful MP. He has not done well under the scrutiny of his policies these last few weeks. Clacton is about to have a very disinterested MP.

This seems apt now he’s been elected.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Why is the nought on 10 Downing Street on the piss?

 

[TinFoilHat]

I supposse our archiac parliamentry rules could stiffle the **** a little.

As an MP he has to adhere to certain level of behaviour in the chamber, he won't get away with the bullshit he would pull as an MEP

Im.concerned what he'll say using Parliamentary privilege because he can't be sued.

 

[inchy14]

MPs who are republicans usually take the oath with their fingers obviously crossed behind their backs.
In any case the GFA requires them to obey the law while working democratically to change it. Fair enough, but they can’t pick and choose and the law requires the oath.

Personally I think it should be fucked off and they swear allegiance to the people they’re meant to represent.

 

[KS55]

Shown to be as sleazy as every other party. If they got independence who would pay for the things that are currently subsidised by the tax payers of England.

Their last official policy left that unanswered. Previously they wanted independence but without fiscal independence ie the English taxpayer should continue to pay for free university tuition, free social care etc for a foreign country. And if they join the EU, the border then comes into question too.

 

[KS55]

I don’t have many kind things to say about the Conservatives and what they’ve done to this country but there are some small things that do give me hope… Robert Buckland’s concession speech was excellent, and goes to show there are still a few Tory’s sprinkled in there who would resist the party’s lurch to the right.

Secondly, Sunak, for all his flaws, knew when he was beaten and is facilitating a peaceful transition of power. This might seem like a bare minimum but you only have to look over the pond to see how easily that will to maintain order in democracy can easily fall apart.

I hope that we now start to address some of the problems that have led to the rise of Reform, mainly the sorry state of public services that has encouraged people to allocate blame in unfair ways. Also the misinformation that is now endemic because of the manner in which people get their news these days and the lack of accountability in media companies.

I think Keir is a decent man at heart. And he’s clearly capable, you don’t get so far in the CPS without being capable. I just hope and ask that he finds it in himself to be bold where it’s called for, and take the actions that are actually going to make a difference in people’s lives. Show Europe the path to prosperity is not through populism but through moderate and honest governance with some solid and compassionate left wing ideas sprinkled in there.

Fine sentiments but……

 

[remember arthur mann]

Pickfords on their way.

 

[KS55]

Pickfords on their way.

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All my bags are packed
I’m ready to go…

 

[TinFoilHat]

Sunak's missus looks angry.

Didn't walk out hand in hand. Maybe they will when they go back in.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I wonder what sunak would do if one of his party donors called to say they could move the furniture out for a large lump of taxpayers money but they didn’t have a removal van or anyone who knows anything about removals.

 

[TinFoilHat]

I wonder what sunak would do if one of his party donors called to say they could move the furniture out for a large lump of taxpayers money but they didn’t have a removal van or anyone who knows anything about removals.

Matt Hancock paid a white van man 700 million to do it.

 

[BobKowalski]

Today is a good day. It’s been coming, but the electorate learned how to game the system. Add in Labour and LD’s running efficient and effective campaign in terms of seat/vote targeting and this is the result.
Greens growing in influence is one to keep an eye on is my hot take.

 

[KS55]

I suppose i could get abusive with the astronomical amounts of money the man wasted, that gave away in untendered contracts to people not up to the job, that he gave away in ‘covid loans’ to multiple fraudulent claims.
The £1.7M spent on ‘painting the PM’s plane’, £120M on ‘the festival of Brexit’, £911M on ‘consultancy fees’ in 2021, double the previous year, £2.3B in fines to the EU for lax customs checks on Chinese goods, £55M on government lawyers for the Covid enquiry, £40M for MOD ‘personal helicopter rides’, £29B on test and trace, over £1B on unusable PPE and testing contracts, millions more on storing it and now millions more on destroying it. All awarded un-tendered again and many of them with links to now ex-ministers and ex-MP’s. We spent over £160B on covid compared to France’s £30B for about the same outcomes.
And, of course, he didn’t insure the national debt, incurred as a result of the Quantitive Easing which he used to issue his ‘Covid Payouts’ against interest rate rises which cost £11B.
These are just a small number of examples and a full catalogue of wasteful spending is attached.
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/b4...ous_spending_tracker_Breakdown.pdf?1717161531

So, all in all, he’s been absolutely useless as both a chancellor and a PM and that’s being generous.

Tbf, a lot of that was at the insistence of Boris. I see they are now burning £1.5b worth of unused PPE.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Didn't know Irishi's missus is a Geordie. That or trying to sneak out of Downing Street as a humbug.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Didn't know Irishi's missus is a Geordie.

I thought she was a rag doing a glazers out protest?

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Why is the nought on 10 Downing Street on the piss?

A botch job during renovation in the early 1960s, before that the zero was not inclined as currently. The zero is actually a Roman style capital letter O and probably just what the sign writer from the Ministry of Works was used to doing at the time.

Since then though, it's been kept as it eventually became a logo for the house.

 

[East Level 2]

I don’t have many kind things to say about the Conservatives and what they’ve done to this country but there are some small things that do give me hope… Robert Buckland’s concession speech was excellent, and goes to show there are still a few Tory’s sprinkled in there who would resist the party’s lurch to the right.
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Buckland's speech was good, but we seem to have entered a period in politics where decency is a rude word. Strident voices seem to capture the attention and sensible reasoned arguments delivered in a calm manner are ignored.
The bluster of Trump and Johnson, and the sheer ranting of Truss and Kwarteng get the headlines irrespective of the message they try to deliver. Style (or lack of it) over substance every time.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Tbf, a lot of that was at the insistence of Boris. I see they are now burning £1.5b worth of unused PPE.

Same company’s that bought it and stored it in some instances as well.
Much of the burnt stuff was entirely usable but it’s gone out of date because we bought so much of it!

 

[MCFC1993]

IF they can sort out immigration I think the one policy Reform Plc will fade away.

Not that hard to do either, just come to an agreement with France on how to police it. It'll cost but It'll be cheaper than flying people to Rwanda. Make legal migration possible, maybe Visa based if you want to be tougher.

Tories just saw their arse and couldn't admit they need to work with France.