Devolution For The Regions - Gtr Manchester

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PPT said:
Covid and the war have only happened in the last 6 years. Anyone who believes Burnham is doing a good job is a total and utter moron. Take the walk from Piccadilly Station to the Arndale on Saturday morning and get back to me. It’s an absolute disaster. It’s like being in a sci-fi movie. Burnham is complete and total fake on every level. A career politician and nothing else.
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Piccadilly has been a dump for at least 40 years. I no longer live in Manchester so I don't really have much of an opinion about Andy Burnham (as an MP, I didn't like him) so I have no bias here but what solutions are available to him to improve Piccadilly? I am not aware of his powers or budget limitations but may be you do so you can explain how he is failing rather than simply claiming he is doing a bad job.
 
Manc in London said:
Piccadilly has been a dump for at least 40 years. I no longer live in Manchester so I don't really have much of an opinion about Andy Burnham (as an MP, I didn't like him) so I have no bias here but what solutions are available to him to improve Piccadilly? I am not aware of his powers or budget limitations but may be you do so you can explain how he is failing rather than simply claiming he is doing a bad job.
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As I said previously. Get off the train at Piccadilly Station and walk down to the Armadale on a Saturday morning and that will clearly explain how he is failing. It is genuinely scary.
 
Manc in London said:
Piccadilly has been a dump for at least 40 years. I no longer live in Manchester so I don't really have much of an opinion about Andy Burnham (as an MP, I didn't like him) so I have no bias here but what solutions are available to him to improve Piccadilly? I am not aware of his powers or budget limitations but may be you do so you can explain how he is failing rather than simply claiming he is doing a bad job.
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The gardens is and always has been a shithole however there’s the area around the corn exchange, spinning fields that are quite nice.
All major cities have awful areas.
 
Eccles Blue said:
Bring back the old style Piccadilly Gardens. They were a credit to Manchester and beautifully kept. However that was a very long time ago. When we had majestic buildings. :-)
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We should genuinely start by doing something about the open air prison yard which used to be piccadilly gardens, we should be doing that before we put in another single fancy building or vanity project transport initiative.

IMHO of course.
 
PPT said:
As I said previously. Get off the train at Piccadilly Station and walk down to the Armadale on a Saturday morning and that will clearly explain how he is failing. It is genuinely scary.
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Mayors have limited powers, to be fair.

It depends what your complaint is. If it is street scene, then that is MCC. Unsavoury individuals and drug use is combined MCC/GMP. All of these have funding implications. Taking into account that around 70% of all council spending pre-2010 was social care and education but councils have had funding cuts by c40%, I am not sure what they can do. If it is any consolation, street scene has declined across the country.
 
Eccles Blue said:
Bring back the old style Piccadilly Gardens. They were a credit to Manchester and beautifully kept. However that was a very long time ago. When we had majestic buildings. :-)
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yeah except leave out the tramps drinking meths, the birdshit and the piss smelling bus shelters.

Piccadilly was great for scrapping with reds and robo cops though.
 
Manc in London said:
Piccadilly has been a dump for at least 40 years. I no longer live in Manchester so I don't really have much of an opinion about Andy Burnham (as an MP, I didn't like him) so I have no bias here but what solutions are available to him to improve Piccadilly? I am not aware of his powers or budget limitations but may be you do so you can explain how he is failing rather than simply claiming he is doing a bad job.
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The proposals to redevelop Piccadilly Gardens have still not been made public yet after years. The plans are still with the architectural teams that have been chosen to redevelop the gardens.

However, parts of the dreaded Berlin Wall that block one side of Piccadilly gardens are being demolished and redeveloped now.

Piccadilly Gardens is still a shit hole with a gangs selling drugs, etc, even after numerous Police crack downs to clean up Piccadilly Gardens.

The person who’s in-charge of Piccadilly Gardens is Manchester Councillor Pat Karney. He’s in-charge of the city centre. Or is supposed to be.

For pictures and more information click on the link and scroll down the page.

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Piccadilly Gardens

Caw said we should have one and I completely agree. So any comments/suggestions on Berlin Wall's, evil bus stations, crappy hotels, badly placed offices, mobile toilets, fountains that dont squirt water, putting tram stations underground etc... in here :)
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Much of Piccadilly Garden, top end of Market street & High Street and lower Oldham Street which meets Picadilly gardens is still a remnant of when Manchester wasn't doing too well back in the 80's.
Sachas hotel (and Britannia owned by the same crew) is a fucking state.
However, much of the rest of the city is light years ahead of other cities (and we shouldn't forge that).

Piccadilly Gardens. To think they sold part of the land to fund what's has been a bit of a failure is saddening.
No.1 Picc gardens isn't a bad building per se but shouldn't have been built.

Imagine the original gardens (and they had seen better days) had waited for the same treatment St Peter's Square and Albert Square have been given?

What's everyone's views on 'Sunley/Piccadilly tower and the hotel/podium?
Not in a the greatest of shapes but will that brutalism eventually settle into something generations will admire, or is it doomed to demolition (when something major is planned for the area?)
 
The whiff of corruption has finally come out. Who would have guessed?
 
TinFoilHat said:
A Devolution bill for England confirmed.

Looks like they want the Burnham model to run bus services throughout the country.
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F##kin great for the country, when they can manage the maths.

The £2 bus fare that he claimed as his own was always a central government funded project nationwide.

Meanwhile, before his Bee Network came in the bossladys monthly buss pass for work was £65 per month, it is now £85. That on its own would be a 30.77% rise.

However the pass is now for 28 days instead of a month, which means he gets an extra payment per year, so a rise from £780 per year to £1105. A rise of 41.67%. Well done Andy, and Kier for following his example !
 
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