PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[ufo]

RAWK too.

It’s like broadband dial up days forum layout.

 

[Grassland Blue]

To be fair they have shared the last 5 PL titles with us ;)

7...

 

[JASR]

RAWK too.

Red cafe finally updated to the latest version of the xenforo forum software a few months ago (BM has been on it for years). I’m guessing they have only recently done it, due to finishing re-
writing the various add-one they use from the previous version of the software (2020) - their threadmarks add-on is the only decent thing produced by united in over a decade…
So, it’s basically the same forum software as BM.

RAWK on the other hand still resolutely clings to the past (hand in hand with their fans…) with some forum software from iirc about 2015, and it’s not supported anymore (again iirc).
The layout is appalling, the rendering on mobile is nonexistent…and they allow it to be overrun with avatar’s, taglines and bollox ranks.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

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Yes I’ve edited it now, cheers.

 

[Grassland Blue]

The stuff of nightmares

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Got a picture of him on the mantlepiece - keeps the kids away from the fire....

 

[TonyM]

Rico Marcelo Lewis.






The end

 

[Grassland Blue]

Oh come on mate they’ve already transformed the tunnel. Everyone knows the marginal gains from having splashed a bit of paint & installed new lights.

They slipped up though
They could have built an aquarium down one side.....

 

[M18CTID]

I am, the amounts being talked about for the city alleged misdemeanours are pifflingly small compared to the bare faced corruption of United’s £40m ‘special’ covid leeway, along with the £35m ‘special’ buyout leeway, saving them from massively breaching PSR and getting hefty fines and points deductions as per the going rates applied to Everton et al.

Nb: the obvious point that the red loons are wanting our executive team hung drawn and quartered, just keep entirely glossing over that their new CEO would be picked up in it all

That, and also the fact that their saviour Ratcliffe doesn't believe City are guilty. United fans don't seem to want to talk about that though for some reason!

 

[Cityfan1977]

That, and also the fact that their saviour Ratcliffe doesn't believe City are guilty. United fans don't seem to want to talk about that though for some reason!

where did he say that I know a few rags I want to send it to

 

[Oldham Exile]

'Struggling to raise any enthusiasm'
Don't think our away support today found it much of a struggle.

The away support is always fantastic - but yesterday was one of the best

Hope it came across on TV/Streams

 

[M18CTID]

where did he say that I know a few rags I want to send it to

I don't think there are any exact quotes to that effect but he's definitely on record as saying that he hopes we don't get found guilty so you can read into it that he doesn't think we're guilty. Plus appointing Berrada is another giveaway IMO.

 

[melrose40yarder]

A new lad turned up at work last week when he dound out i was a city fan started going on about 115.
I asked him what the 115 charges were started mumbling.Then said we are turning it into a farmers league.
Found out he is Arsenal so asked him when them and stretford rangers were dominating was it ok.
Asked him why arse,scum and chelsea have spent more than us why are they not winning.They dont want competition no matter what they say they just want the gravy train for themselves.Fuck the rest.All he could say they would not have charged u if it wasnt true.Made up rules to keep the cartel on top the thing they dont get is most of us were there in League 1 and will be again if it comes to that.I also said you better win it all if we are gone cos when we come back you wont be.Jealousy they wish it was thier club that had been invested in

 

[Oldham Exile]

Ooops - this is in danger of becoming an alternative scum thread - and I recognise that I am contributing to that - so last one of this type.

I was reading their thread and was taken by this 'specialist'

Here's us thinking that we are well served by Slbsn and Prestwich Blue - but the rags seem to have someone to trump them in specialist knowledge..................

• Yesterday at 18:39

• Garnacho's Shoelaces​

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  What is the possibility of a class action lawsuit being brought by any club that feels their cheating has impacted their earnings since 2008?
  
  Surely if they are found guilty then there is a real case for one.

  Their guilt is an inevitability at this stage. City have invested huge resources into delay tactics rather than fighting the claims. The timeline was posted earlier in this thread but essentially the hearing could have been completed over 3 years ago.
  
  Kicking the can down the road isn't the action of an entity believing they can defend their actions. Let's not forget this is a civil matter too. The EPL need to prove City probably broke their rules. They have to prove it is more likely, than not, the allegations occured.
  
  Once proven, I suspect City are in for a decade of legal issues. There are the criminal issues. False accounting (Section 17 Theft Act 1968) seems nailed on for the high level executives. Concealing criminal property (Section 327 POCA 2000) which is effectively money laundering. Then you have the fact this is effectively a complex fraud (resists making a Fraudiola reference). City have repeatedly made false representations from which they gained, and others were exposed to a risk of loss (Section 2 Fraud Act 2006). The most appropriate primacy for the investigation is likely the National Crime Agency (NCA) and Serious Fraud Office (SFO). That'll take a few years to unpick I suspect, a few convictions coming out of that. Custody threshold definitely passed when considering the societal importance of sport and the reputational damage to one of our biggest global exports.
  
  Then all the civil stuff will begin. Every time City have finished ahead of another team, they've cost each team ~£1m in finishing position prize money. Years they've won, that's £19m. Second, £18m, etc. 15 years of it going to be around £200m. Then you have teams being relegated because City were cheating to stay in the league. Then the teams losing out on Champions League, Europa League and Conference League football because of a cheating team finishing ahead. The sponsorship implications of those losses. City have probably cost other teams around £750-1bn in lost revenues, just on those factors alone.
  
  In short, I'd expect a couple of decent prison sentences for the coordinators of the conspiracy to defraud and financial ruin for City but likely playing out until 2035.

Fuck this guy seems such a ??????

Well I guess proper whopper covers it

But it does reflect just how many people are out there desperate for confirmation of our doom - they eat this shit up and regurgitate it

Bunch of cunts

 

[remember arthur mann]

Ooops - this is in danger of becoming an alternative scum thread - and I reconise that I am contributing to that - so last one of this type.

I was reading their thread and was taken by this 'specialist'

Here's us thinking that we are well served by Slbsn and Prestwich Blue - but the rags seem to have someone to trump them in specialist knowledge..................

• Yesterday at 18:39

• Garnacho's Shoelaces​

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  Their guilt is an inevitability at this stage. City have invested huge resources into delay tactics rather than fighting the claims. The timeline was posted earlier in this thread but essentially the hearing could have been completed over 3 years ago.
  
  Kicking the can down the road isn't the action of an entity believing they can defend their actions. Let's not forget this is a civil matter too. The EPL need to prove City probably broke their rules. They have to prove it is more likely, than not, the allegations occured.
  
  Once proven, I suspect City are in for a decade of legal issues. There are the criminal issues. False accounting (Section 17 Theft Act 1968) seems nailed on for the high level executives. Concealing criminal property (Section 327 POCA 2000) which is effectively money laundering. Then you have the fact this is effectively a complex fraud (resists making a Fraudiola reference). City have repeatedly made false representations from which they gained, and others were exposed to a risk of loss (Section 2 Fraud Act 2006). The most appropriate primacy for the investigation is likely the National Crime Agency (NCA) and Serious Fraud Office (SFO). That'll take a few years to unpick I suspect, a few convictions coming out of that. Custody threshold definitely passed when considering the societal importance of sport and the reputational damage to one of our biggest global exports.
  
  Then all the civil stuff will begin. Every time City have finished ahead of another team, they've cost each team ~£1m in finishing position prize money. Years they've won, that's £19m. Second, £18m, etc. 15 years of it going to be around £200m. Then you have teams being relegated because City were cheating to stay in the league. Then the teams losing out on Champions League, Europa League and Conference League football because of a cheating team finishing ahead. The sponsorship implications of those losses. City have probably cost other teams around £750-1bn in lost revenues, just on those factors alone.
  
  In short, I'd expect a couple of decent prison sentences for the coordinators of the conspiracy to defraud and financial ruin for City but likely playing out until 2035.

Fuck this guy seems such a ??????

Well I guess proper whopper covers it

But it does reflect just how many people are out there desperate for confirmation of our doom - they eat this shit up and regurgitate it

Bunch of cunts

 

[ufo]

Ooops - this is in danger of becoming an alternative scum thread - and I reconise that I am contributing to that - so last one of this type.

I was reading their thread and was taken by this 'specialist'

Here's us thinking that we are well served by Slbsn and Prestwich Blue - but the rags seem to have someone to trump them in specialist knowledge..................

• Yesterday at 18:39

• Garnacho's Shoelaces​

  New Member​

  Newbie
  Joined Nov 6, 2022Messages 941Location In Garnacho's boots but untied
  
  Their guilt is an inevitability at this stage. City have invested huge resources into delay tactics rather than fighting the claims. The timeline was posted earlier in this thread but essentially the hearing could have been completed over 3 years ago.
  
  Kicking the can down the road isn't the action of an entity believing they can defend their actions. Let's not forget this is a civil matter too. The EPL need to prove City probably broke their rules. They have to prove it is more likely, than not, the allegations occured.
  
  Once proven, I suspect City are in for a decade of legal issues. There are the criminal issues. False accounting (Section 17 Theft Act 1968) seems nailed on for the high level executives. Concealing criminal property (Section 327 POCA 2000) which is effectively money laundering. Then you have the fact this is effectively a complex fraud (resists making a Fraudiola reference). City have repeatedly made false representations from which they gained, and others were exposed to a risk of loss (Section 2 Fraud Act 2006). The most appropriate primacy for the investigation is likely the National Crime Agency (NCA) and Serious Fraud Office (SFO). That'll take a few years to unpick I suspect, a few convictions coming out of that. Custody threshold definitely passed when considering the societal importance of sport and the reputational damage to one of our biggest global exports.
  
  Then all the civil stuff will begin. Every time City have finished ahead of another team, they've cost each team ~£1m in finishing position prize money. Years they've won, that's £19m. Second, £18m, etc. 15 years of it going to be around £200m. Then you have teams being relegated because City were cheating to stay in the league. Then the teams losing out on Champions League, Europa League and Conference League football because of a cheating team finishing ahead. The sponsorship implications of those losses. City have probably cost other teams around £750-1bn in lost revenues, just on those factors alone.
  
  In short, I'd expect a couple of decent prison sentences for the coordinators of the conspiracy to defraud and financial ruin for City but likely playing out until 2035.

Fuck this guy seems such a ??????

Well I guess proper whopper covers it

But it does reflect just how many people are out there desperate for confirmation of our doom - they eat this shit up and regurgitate it

Bunch of cunts

 

[oakiecokie]

Ooops - this is in danger of becoming an alternative scum thread - and I reconise that I am contributing to that - so last one of this type.

I was reading their thread and was taken by this 'specialist'

Here's us thinking that we are well served by Slbsn and Prestwich Blue - but the rags seem to have someone to trump them in specialist knowledge..................

• Yesterday at 18:39

• Garnacho's Shoelaces​

  New Member​

  Newbie
  Joined Nov 6, 2022Messages 941Location In Garnacho's boots but untied
  
  Their guilt is an inevitability at this stage. City have invested huge resources into delay tactics rather than fighting the claims. The timeline was posted earlier in this thread but essentially the hearing could have been completed over 3 years ago.
  
  Kicking the can down the road isn't the action of an entity believing they can defend their actions. Let's not forget this is a civil matter too. The EPL need to prove City probably broke their rules. They have to prove it is more likely, than not, the allegations occured.
  
  Once proven, I suspect City are in for a decade of legal issues. There are the criminal issues. False accounting (Section 17 Theft Act 1968) seems nailed on for the high level executives. Concealing criminal property (Section 327 POCA 2000) which is effectively money laundering. Then you have the fact this is effectively a complex fraud (resists making a Fraudiola reference). City have repeatedly made false representations from which they gained, and others were exposed to a risk of loss (Section 2 Fraud Act 2006). The most appropriate primacy for the investigation is likely the National Crime Agency (NCA) and Serious Fraud Office (SFO). That'll take a few years to unpick I suspect, a few convictions coming out of that. Custody threshold definitely passed when considering the societal importance of sport and the reputational damage to one of our biggest global exports.
  
  Then all the civil stuff will begin. Every time City have finished ahead of another team, they've cost each team ~£1m in finishing position prize money. Years they've won, that's £19m. Second, £18m, etc. 15 years of it going to be around £200m. Then you have teams being relegated because City were cheating to stay in the league. Then the teams losing out on Champions League, Europa League and Conference League football because of a cheating team finishing ahead. The sponsorship implications of those losses. City have probably cost other teams around £750-1bn in lost revenues, just on those factors alone.
  
  In short, I'd expect a couple of decent prison sentences for the coordinators of the conspiracy to defraud and financial ruin for City but likely playing out until 2035.

Fuck this guy seems such a ??????

Well I guess proper whopper covers it

But it does reflect just how many people are out there desperate for confirmation of our doom - they eat this shit up and regurgitate it

Bunch of cunts

I think the words "knownowt tosspot" springs to mind.

 

[ufo]

A new lad turned up at work last week when he dound out i was a city fan started going on about 115.
I asked him what the 115 charges were started mumbling.Then said we are turning it into a farmers league.
Found out he is Arsenal so asked him when them and stretford rangers were dominating was it ok.
Asked him why arse,scum and chelsea have spent more than us why are they not winning.They dont want competition no matter what they say they just want the gravy train for themselves.Fuck the rest.All he could say they would not have charged u if it wasnt true.Made up rules to keep the cartel on top the thing they dont get is most of us were there in League 1 and will be again if it comes to that.I also said you better win it all if we are gone cos when we come back you wont be.Jealousy they wish it was thier club that had been invested in

Laxative is a fantastic welcome gesture .

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Ooops - this is in danger of becoming an alternative scum thread - and I reconise that I am contributing to that - so last one of this type.

I was reading their thread and was taken by this 'specialist'

Here's us thinking that we are well served by Slbsn and Prestwich Blue - but the rags seem to have someone to trump them in specialist knowledge..................

• Yesterday at 18:39

• Garnacho's Shoelaces​

  New Member​

  Newbie
  Joined Nov 6, 2022Messages 941Location In Garnacho's boots but untied
  
  Their guilt is an inevitability at this stage. City have invested huge resources into delay tactics rather than fighting the claims. The timeline was posted earlier in this thread but essentially the hearing could have been completed over 3 years ago.
  
  Kicking the can down the road isn't the action of an entity believing they can defend their actions. Let's not forget this is a civil matter too. The EPL need to prove City probably broke their rules. They have to prove it is more likely, than not, the allegations occured.
  
  Once proven, I suspect City are in for a decade of legal issues. There are the criminal issues. False accounting (Section 17 Theft Act 1968) seems nailed on for the high level executives. Concealing criminal property (Section 327 POCA 2000) which is effectively money laundering. Then you have the fact this is effectively a complex fraud (resists making a Fraudiola reference). City have repeatedly made false representations from which they gained, and others were exposed to a risk of loss (Section 2 Fraud Act 2006). The most appropriate primacy for the investigation is likely the National Crime Agency (NCA) and Serious Fraud Office (SFO). That'll take a few years to unpick I suspect, a few convictions coming out of that. Custody threshold definitely passed when considering the societal importance of sport and the reputational damage to one of our biggest global exports.
  
  Then all the civil stuff will begin. Every time City have finished ahead of another team, they've cost each team ~£1m in finishing position prize money. Years they've won, that's £19m. Second, £18m, etc. 15 years of it going to be around £200m. Then you have teams being relegated because City were cheating to stay in the league. Then the teams losing out on Champions League, Europa League and Conference League football because of a cheating team finishing ahead. The sponsorship implications of those losses. City have probably cost other teams around £750-1bn in lost revenues, just on those factors alone.
  
  In short, I'd expect a couple of decent prison sentences for the coordinators of the conspiracy to defraud and financial ruin for City but likely playing out until 2035.

Fuck this guy seems such a ??????

Well I guess proper whopper covers it

But it does reflect just how many people are out there desperate for confirmation of our doom - they eat this shit up and regurgitate it

Bunch of cunts

I suspect he's going to be a little disappointed when the outcome of the IC is known.

 

[117 M34]

Ooops - this is in danger of becoming an alternative scum thread - and I reconise that I am contributing to that - so last one of this type.

I was reading their thread and was taken by this 'specialist'

Here's us thinking that we are well served by Slbsn and Prestwich Blue - but the rags seem to have someone to trump them in specialist knowledge..................

• Yesterday at 18:39

• Garnacho's Shoelaces​

  New Member​

  Newbie
  Joined Nov 6, 2022Messages 941Location In Garnacho's boots but untied
  
  Their guilt is an inevitability at this stage. City have invested huge resources into delay tactics rather than fighting the claims. The timeline was posted earlier in this thread but essentially the hearing could have been completed over 3 years ago.
  
  Kicking the can down the road isn't the action of an entity believing they can defend their actions. Let's not forget this is a civil matter too. The EPL need to prove City probably broke their rules. They have to prove it is more likely, than not, the allegations occured.
  
  Once proven, I suspect City are in for a decade of legal issues. There are the criminal issues. False accounting (Section 17 Theft Act 1968) seems nailed on for the high level executives. Concealing criminal property (Section 327 POCA 2000) which is effectively money laundering. Then you have the fact this is effectively a complex fraud (resists making a Fraudiola reference). City have repeatedly made false representations from which they gained, and others were exposed to a risk of loss (Section 2 Fraud Act 2006). The most appropriate primacy for the investigation is likely the National Crime Agency (NCA) and Serious Fraud Office (SFO). That'll take a few years to unpick I suspect, a few convictions coming out of that. Custody threshold definitely passed when considering the societal importance of sport and the reputational damage to one of our biggest global exports.
  
  Then all the civil stuff will begin. Every time City have finished ahead of another team, they've cost each team ~£1m in finishing position prize money. Years they've won, that's £19m. Second, £18m, etc. 15 years of it going to be around £200m. Then you have teams being relegated because City were cheating to stay in the league. Then the teams losing out on Champions League, Europa League and Conference League football because of a cheating team finishing ahead. The sponsorship implications of those losses. City have probably cost other teams around £750-1bn in lost revenues, just on those factors alone.
  
  In short, I'd expect a couple of decent prison sentences for the coordinators of the conspiracy to defraud and financial ruin for City but likely playing out until 2035.

Fuck this guy seems such a ??????

Well I guess proper whopper covers it

But it does reflect just how many people are out there desperate for confirmation of our doom - they eat this shit up and regurgitate it

Bunch of cunts

Talking about prison sentences.
Wonder if the thicko has realised that if it came to that the first one in prison would be their new CEO

 

[Grassland Blue]

Done with football!

What they mean is “It’s not fair. I was under the impression that Utd / Liverpool or Arsenal would always be the top team

How can I support a team that doesn’t have a devine right to win?”

Not quite correct.
I think le arse would be content just to finish top 3 or 4th in that scenario.