PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[blueloon]

Also Masters finding himself “unable/unwelcome” to present the PL trophy to the four times champions speaks for itself. Khaldoon recently bigging-up Allison Brittain and the lady Chair of the FA tells me that Masters is fucked and the club are looking beyond his toxic regime with an eye to the future.

That is all something over nothing. What we need to understand is we have to work with the Premier League. It will not benefit our owners to make things too toxic. Our owners know what they are doing. Comments coming out on social media are just noise. With the greatest of respect the majority of people know f""k all about what is going on. It would have been better for everyone concerned that this case didn't come into the public knowledge. The media were only helping themselves when they pushed for it to be released. We are all going to have to sit back and wait to see what happens. As ever, speculation will always be the enemy of calm.

 

[blueyorkie]

If I’m not mistaken there was a court case where they ruled against City & the League who both wanted the matter to be kept private. I doubt they realised what horrendous effects that judgement precipitated.

 

[KS55]

'The gutless shithousery of the minority'.

No sporting ambition, pride or integrity....but City are ruining football.

The long game played by the club is now in its 14th/15th year, and now just maybe, the scales are being lifted from some of our detractors eyes.

The irrational consequences of many of the red cartel influenced laws, are becoming clearer to an increasing number of clubs and fans.

The number of clubs in conflict & litigation with the PL is just one indicator of discord and distrust.

The unintended consequences of the ill thought out PSR rule may just be the wake up call.

Much of this is coming together in a delta leading up to our hearing.

It is SO important that City are cleared of all significant charges, forcing a beneficial change at the PL, and allowing common sense and sporting ability to be front and centre of the game.

Hopefully, the wider game will recognise the wisdom and fortitude of the Sheikh & Kool Hand ....and the malignant intentions of the red yank cartel.

I hope you are not being too optimistic.

 

[KS55]

Two brilliant minds.

An irresistible force v an immovable object.

A gladiatorial battle of legal chess ....what a shame it can't be live.

They wanted to make it public with tickets limited to blues who went to York, but 100,000 applied.

 

[blueste41]

Bookies just copy the Betfair exchange, rarely will you find odds bigger at the Bookies then the exchange and if you do it won’t last long.

There is software available that will show you arbs between bookies and exchanges, below is a small sample of what's available right now. If you take these value bets though your account won't last very long, the exception being price boosts where we intentionally offer higher odds.

 

[The blue phantom]

I'm a betting trader, we don't set the odds you do by choosing which outcome to put your money on. The more money that goes on a particular outcome the lower the odds of that outcome becomes. It has to be that way because we work on something called an overround, essentially this means the odds are adjusted so whatever the actual outcome is we make the same profit.
The difference in odds of us winning the league and being relegated are irrelevant because those two markets are independent of each other.
The true odds of a market are more indicative at betting exchanges where the odds are set by traders buying and selling each side of the market at a price others are willing to accept (in much the same way stocks are bought and sold).
If you look at the trades for the two markets you mention you will see that they are not that dissimilar to the odds at the bookies.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/football/market/1.229393513
The truth of it is that if we were 2000/1 we would have taken on a lot more liability than we have, people would have then layed off their bets at the exchange for a huge profit and currently be sunning themselves on their private island in the Caribbean!

Also a trader. Nobody got on at those huge odds in the high street bookies nevr mind the exchanges. Without using the tools to do so and check, what do you think the biggest bet was placed on City to be relegated on betfair at say over 25/1?

 

[Gone for a Burton]

They wanted to make it public with tickets limited to blues who went to York, but 100,000 applied.

Re open the Gene Kelly.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

If you look at the Red Cafe thread on this it is startling. Apparently we are media darlings and can't be criticised. Like WTF. Most posters have no idea of the substance of the charges, but are convinced of guilt. If we are cleared it's really going to sting for them.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

If you look at the Red Cafe thread on this it is startling. Apparently we are media darlings and can't be criticised. Like WTF. Most posters have no idea of the substance of the charges, but are convinced of guilt. When we are cleared it's really going to sting for them.

Slight edit ;-)

 

[Gone for a Burton]

That is all something over nothing. What we need to understand is we have to work with the Premier League. It will not benefit our owners to make things too toxic. Our owners know what they are doing. Comments coming out on social media are just noise. With the greatest of respect the majority of people know f""k all about what is going on. It would have been better for everyone concerned that this case didn't come into the public knowledge. The media were only helping themselves when they pushed for it to be released. We are all going to have to sit back and wait to see what happens. As ever, speculation will always be the enemy of calm.

When's your party ?

Remind me to miss it !!

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Arabs hire Jewish Lawyer... City breaking down race barriers - can negotiate Gaza ceasefire when he has seen off puppet Masters ;)

Following the signing of the Abraham Accords, the relationship and trade twixt UAE & Israel is excellent and growing exponentially.

There are Jewish communities, Synagogues and Kosher food shops across Dubai and ADB.

The common 'threat' in the region is Iran which is directly across the Straits of Hermuz from UAE, less than 60 miles !!

 

[Grassland Blue]

I see Jordan is turning into prime Martin Samuel. How embarrassing for him after the bollocks he has spouted for so many years.

Tbf, he said he was wrong and was naive and he now feels PSR (as it is) isn't achieving any good for the game. He also says the PL needs leadership to decide what it wants financial regulation to achieve and how.

On YouTube as part of @slbsn 's talks this morning. He must have been reading Bluemoon :)

SJ has quietly been re-positioning himself for quite some time now.
"It's also interesting how some presenters have recently begun calling City (through gritted teeth no doubt) "the best team in the country".....

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

That is all something over nothing. What we need to understand is we have to work with the Premier League. It will not benefit our owners to make things too toxic. Our owners know what they are doing. Comments coming out on social media are just noise. With the greatest of respect the majority of people know f""k all about what is going on. It would have been better for everyone concerned that this case didn't come into the public knowledge. The media were only helping themselves when they pushed for it to be released. We are all going to have to sit back and wait to see what happens. As ever, speculation will always be the enemy of calm.

I accept your point about being calm and ignoring the noise but this legal battle is certainly not “something over nothing.”

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Something I dream about is that Pep is holding the PL to ransom. They want him gone, and as far as I can see the timeline has been :
Charges announced
Drags on and on with not even a start date
Pep announces he might leave
The PL announces a date for the hearing.

Pep to me right now doesnt look or act like a manager who is leaving.

I dream though.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

That is all something over nothing. What we need to understand is we have to work with the Premier League. It will not benefit our owners to make things too toxic. Our owners know what they are doing. Comments coming out on social media are just noise. With the greatest of respect the majority of people know f""k all about what is going on. It would have been better for everyone concerned that this case didn't come into the public knowledge. The media were only helping themselves when they pushed for it to be released. We are all going to have to sit back and wait to see what happens. As ever, speculation will always be the enemy of calm.

Khaldoon and Soriano are clearly very angry at the PL CEO and the current regime at the PL - that is clear from Khaldoon’s demeanour and unofficial comments from Soriano. By heaping praise on the Chair at the PL (and the FA) while maintaining a deafening silence regarding dead-man-walking Masters, they are looking to future improved relations. We will not be burning any bridges. It may have been better if these matters were confidential but our enemies have made sure that public opinion is against us through leaks, negative spin, briefings and black propaganda. This has been enthusiastically supported by the current PL Executives through the weaponised framing of the allegations, leaks during the process and failure to punish those responsible for leaks and anti-City briefings to the media. These matters are not social media speculation - they are clear.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Something I dream about is that Pep is holding the PL to ransom. They want him gone, and as far as I can see the timeline has been :
Charges announced
Drags on and on with not even a start date
Pep announces he might leave
The PL announces a date for the hearing.

Pep to me right now doesnt look or act like a manager who is leaving.

I dream though.

It is pretty clear he is staying at least one more season after this. I don’t believe he will leave till the court case is sorted and he wants to win the first proper Club World Cup next Summer.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Khaldoon and Soriano are clearly very angry at the PL CEO and the current regime at the PL - that is clear from Khaldoon’s demeanour and unofficial comments from Soriano. By heaping praise on the Chair at the PL (and the FA) while maintaining a deafening silence regarding dead-man-walking Masters, they are looking to future improved relations. We will not be burning any bridges. It may have been better if these matters were confidential but our enemies have made sure that public opinion is against us through leaks, negative spin, briefings and black propaganda. This has been enthusiastically supported by the current PL Executives through the weaponised framing of the allegations, leaks during the process and failure to punish those responsible for leaks and anti-City briefings to the media. These matters are not social media speculation - they are clear.

Nail on the head. Nothing has come from the City side. The publicity has been generated by leaks and briefings from a few rival clubs who are in the loop with the PL leadership. The same tactics have been used against Everton and Leicester. All the financial details are supposed to be confidential. This does not happen by accident.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

Nail on the head. Nothing has come from the City side. The publicity has been generated by leaks and briefings from a few rival clubs who are in the loop with the PL leadership. The same tactics have been used against Everton and Leicester. All the financial details are supposed to be confidential. This does not happen by accident.

The problem is EVERY single PL club benefits from City being punished. There are literally 19 potential culprits for the leaks as they will all benefit from City being done over in some shape or form.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The problem is EVERY single PL club benefits from City being punished. There are literally 19 potential culprits for the leaks as they will all benefit from City being done over in some shape or form.

Perhaps you are right. But quite a few PL clubs have made money off good transfer deals with us. The PL governance structure is not fit for purpose. Commercial rivals should not be able to strangle competitors. That said I am certain the prime movers against City have been LFC, MUFC (pre-Ratcliffe), Arsenal, and Spurs. They are the leaders of the hateful 8.

 

[PPT]

Something I dream about is that Pep is holding the PL to ransom. They want him gone, and as far as I can see the timeline has been :
Charges announced
Drags on and on with not even a start date
Pep announces he might leave
The PL announces a date for the hearing.

Pep to me right now doesnt look or act like a manager who is leaving.

I dream though.

Pep has said he will decide his future later in the year.
November: The charges get thrown out. Pep immediately announces he's staying for
another year. Boiled piss all around on an epic scale.