Arsenal Thread | 2024/25

[1961_vintage]

Arteta being Arteta after the game and lining up his excuses already.

He's absolutely shite with the media - comes across always as an irritating gimp, regardless of their result.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Well today was a reality check. It's not disastrous - vs last season and the fixtures played we're a point up but the facts are we weren't brilliant before the red. The red was perhaps a bit harsh but Rice is an absolute moron for putting the ref in a position where he can make such a decision so it's not something that can be argued with

Fact is Rice has been crap since the last month of last season and maybe the rest will do him good. We've got some tough matches coming up- Spurs away, then Atalanta away and then City away, all in the space of 7 days. Realistically we need to beat Spurs and get something at the Etihad.

City have won all their games but are definitely gettable at the back however we aren't firing on all cylinders and build up is a bit slow. Odegaard hasn't really sparked either. Hate to say it but its not as if Arteta wasnt warned that he needs a decent striker.

At the moment I'd say we look like a Top 4 team not a title contender- both City and Liverpool have looked better.

It is very early days though and people are getting ahead of themselves so early on making predictions.

The red was not harsh. It was exactly what the ref was supposed to do. Rice was stupid and that is the only talking point.
Thought Arsenal's game management was dreadful after the red. They should have tried to take the game back to Brighton instead of playing for a draw. Can't believe how emotional Arsenal are. They make the Dippers look grounded. It's three games ffs.

 

[KentBlue]

It's difficult to have any sympathy for Arsenal, in fact it's nigh on impossible.
They have become the real masters of the dark arts under Arteta, and for me Saka is at the vanguard of all that is wrong with this current team: his constant diving and attempts at winning penalties and free-kicks don't do the man any favours, he's becoming an embarrassment to the profession.

 

[East Level 2]

The problem with Rice's second yellow is that players do it quite often but don't get carded for it. Once again it's the lack of consistency that pisses off the fans.

 

[Tb1981]

these guys are so easy to hate
The fans, team and manager.
They moan about every decision, team talks in middle of game, arteta never in his area

Odegard rolling around trying to get a Brighton player sent off earlier in the game as well

 

[dickie davies]

Should have been an electrician.

Stuart Pearce disagrees

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That's not quite right. Veltman rolls the ball at Rice and the ball is still moving when the supposed 'kicking of the ball' happened so it would have had to be retaken. Basically Veltman knew exactly what he was doing and Rice took the bait.

99 times out of 100 no card is issued, plus the ref has form for erratic decision making - he's the ref that disallowed a legitimate Bournemouth winner against Newcastle last week and then didn't send off Joelinton for grabbing the Bmth keeper around the neck but somehow Rice's offence is deemed worse. However, Given the fact we know he's a crap ref Rice should have known better and not taken a risk. It was stupid and almost certainly cost Arsenal 2 points. It was a harsh decision without being a wrong decision if that makes sense. But Rice cannot blame anyone other than himself

He didn’t disallow Bournemouth’s goal, he was told to by VAR.

I thought the Joelington was a blatant red card for a clothesline, but having seen other angles, the referee seems to have been justified in showing a yellow.

Neither of those decisions had anything to do with him showing a yellow card for Rice kicking the ball away, moving or not moving.

The fact Veltman tried to kick the ball, but it was kicked away by Rice is why he got his second yellow. It doesn’t matter if it was still rolling.

 

[east2]

Rice kicked the ball away. Had Veltman not tried to kick it, I reckon Rice stays on the pitch.

The fact the kick of the ball makes Veltman kick fresh air and Rice has made the decision for the referee.

Teams had better not kick the ball away for the foreseeable future now though..

Cast your mind back to the community shield versus Arse last year when Alvarez was booked for kicking the ball away…soft booking and Rice’s was no different

 

[Tb1981]

They had a penalty against us for a keeper follow through after the shot didn’t go in - no outrage
Rashford offside for Bruno goal - no outrage
Rodri sent off for touching forest players neck - no outrage

The outrage is that they see us two points ahead now

 

[malg]

these guys are so easy to hate
The fans, team and manager.
They moan about every decision, team talks in middle of game, arteta never in his area

Odegard rolling around trying to get a Brighton player sent off earlier in the game as well

Doku done a decent roll around yesterday as well

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yep I've noticed that. Foden has hardly played as well. I thought Rico Lewis did well today against West Ham.

Or Stones or Walker

 

[Rochdale Blue]

The red was not harsh. It was exactly what the ref was supposed to do. Rice was stupid and that is the only talking point.
Thought Arsenal's game management was dreadful after the red. They should have tried to take the game back to Brighton instead of playing for a draw. Can't believe how emotional Arsenal are. They make the Dippers look grounded. It's three games ffs.

It was harsh even if correct when you see what other players get away with. Two rags booting the ball 20\30 yards away against us and not the slightest interest off the ref in the community shield game.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

These two seem like normal fans and are quite balanced, total contrast to the blud, fam, muppets on the other channels.

This is spot on. Exactly how I saw this match. Brighton were the better side before the sending off. Rice has not played well since last Christmas.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

It was harsh even if correct when you see what other players get away with. Two rags booting the ball 20\30 yards away against us and not the slightest interest off the ref in the community shield game.

This is where the charge of 'cheating' can be laid against many of PiGMOL's finest. If the LotG mandate a yellow for an offence it should be given. Too many refs think that their idea of controversy is most fans' idea of applying the laws as they are written. There should be no other consideration - colour of shirt, state of the game, time of the offence, etc! Get the fuckin' card out yer cheating bastards.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yellow card by the rules but rarely given when the perp is on a yellow.
Perhaps the Brighton player kicking air sealed the card, but then again Rice has a reputation for giving the ref earache so that may have been the clincher.
Like Rodri v Forrest last year - stupidity by the player concerned.

 

[danielwood5]

Yellow card by the rules but rarely given when the perp is on a yellow.
Perhaps the Brighton player kicking air sealed the card, but then again Rice has a reputation for giving the ref earache so that may have been the clincher.
Like Rodri v Forrest last year - stupidity by the player concerned.

I think Rice throwing himself to the floor and rolling around didn't help either as it just adds more weight to the argument that he was trying to delay the restart which is what the rules are aimed at stopping.

 

[hammocity]

That's not quite right. Veltman rolls the ball at Rice and the ball is still moving when the supposed 'kicking of the ball' happened so it would have had to be retaken. Basically Veltman knew exactly what he was doing and Rice took the bait.

99 times out of 100 no card is issued, plus the ref has form for erratic decision making - he's the ref that disallowed a legitimate Bournemouth winner against Newcastle last week and then didn't send off Joelinton for grabbing the Bmth keeper around the neck but somehow Rice's offence is deemed worse. However, Given the fact we know he's a crap ref Rice should have known better and not taken a risk. It was stupid and almost certainly cost Arsenal 2 points. It was a harsh decision without being a wrong decision if that makes sense. But Rice cannot blame anyone other than himself

I thought it was a really poor decision to send Rice off for that, Kavanagh is from my hometown (Ashton under Lyne) and I believe he's a Dipper supporter but his brother is a Blue.

Fun fact, same town where Geoff Hurst and Simone Perrotta, both World Cup winners were born, Angela Rayner is the MP, Ross Brawn was brought up there and I played in the same House Football team at Hartshead School with ex Everton and Arsenal player Trevor Ross, if you're old enough to remember him.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Harsh, correct or whatever else. We can all agree it was a great decision where we were concerned.

What I find strange is how the Brighton player wasn’t booked for his kicking the ball away, which was far more obvious and intent than Rices.

I can see why the arse fans would be really pissed off at that, given how the game panned out.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Harsh, correct or whatever else. We can all agree it was a great decision where we were concerned.

What I find strange is how the Brighton player wasn’t booked for his kicking the ball away, which was far more obvious and intent than Rices.

I can see why the arse fans would be really pissed off at that, given how the game panned out.

their team should have had more balls and not gift Brighton possession. I thought Brightons ability to carve out decent chances from that possession was pretty damn poor. Arsenal got what they deserved.

 

[Withnail]

The problem with Rice's second yellow is that players do it quite often but don't get carded for it. Once again it's the lack of consistency that pisses off the fans.

The decision to send off Rice was harsh but correct, how Pedro didn't get a yellow for belting the ball away after it had gone out of play in the 1st half, I don't know. The lack of consistency is an issue.