The Labour Government

[KS55]

Bed blocking has been a thing since i started my training in '79 , it is nothing new , the tories promised to sort out social care but didnt touch it , that is the key , that and seeing your dr and physio more easier , there is not one problem to solve

I am very lucky as i have a trust that works really well, i have had to use them a lot recently and a couple of times or so through the cancer two week pathway and everything worked perfectly and within the two week target every time , it can be done so why is the national picture so bad

Your last phrase is so telling. Patchy is the word for nhs treatment, efficiency
etc. I have not worked for the nhs for years but there was then no evidence of benchmarking, so huge differences between good performance and bad were not identified. Do they do it now?
When you say the tories didn’t touch the problem of bed blocking that is part of the problem. It should be entirely the responsibility of the nhs, not the DoH. This requires major reform: briefly, the nhs should have a clear annual plan agreed with the DoH (because the taxpayer pays) and should then get on with it, unencumbered by ministers. Revolutionary! Reforms should come from within.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Of course the issues are to be laid at the tories door, for 14 yrs they cut every budget to the bone , the nhs staff are running on fumes , the austerity has decimated public services , they cut the pandemic planning to the bone and allowed millions of items of ppe go out of date hence the scrabble to get out ridiculous contracts to get some to the staff wearing bin bags as ppe . As i understand it every country has to do pandemic planning and obama warned there was a pandemic loaming large

The tories always talk about covid and ukraine and never admit to being in charge for ten years before covid , their choices are going to be felt for years , ask those with mortages

Of course the 10 years before COVID were all plain sailing. Nothing at all to do with the country being flat broke when they took over. Nothing at all. Brown handed over an economy absolutely thriving and those naughty Tory rascals spoiled everything.

How silly of the voters to not see that and keep re-electing them.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I get that there are problems to fix, but I wonder how long we are going to hear the excuse that it is down to the last Government.

Apparently they can't pay postmasters and the delay is down to the last government?

Its getting a bit tedious already. The buck now stops with you Starmer, you need to own it.

 

[KS55]

I get that there are problems to fix, but I wonder how long we are going to hear the excuse that it is down to the last Government.

Apparently they can't pay postmasters and the delay is down to the last government?

Its getting a bit tedious already. The buck now stops with you Starmer, you need to own it.

It’s politics! Drives me insane.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I get that there are problems to fix, but I wonder how long we are going to hear the excuse that it is down to the last Government.

Apparently they can't pay postmasters and the delay is down to the last government?

Its getting a bit tedious already. The buck now stops with you Starmer, you need to own it.

Party you voted for couldn't solve f@ck all in 14 years ..... yet you expect the incoming party to solve all the shit left behind in 5 weeks .... you're a joke.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

You really are a simpleton arnt you. I was quite open about who I voted for and it was Labour.

You couldnt even google your answers correctly yesterday when I and others were discussing the future of the steel industry. You just but in and bore everyone to death with your anti tory rhetoric in every post. You actually arnt bright enough to debate a thing with. So you're on ignore from now on.

thank god ..

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

It’s politics! Drives me insane.

I agree, they are all the same in that respect. I understand things are going to take time but do we really need to hear it's someone else's fault all the while. I wasn't brought up to blame others, but to take responsibility for my own actions that's why it annoys me.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

I get that there are problems to fix, but I wonder how long we are going to hear the excuse that it is down to the last Government.

Apparently they can't pay postmasters and the delay is down to the last government?

Its getting a bit tedious already. The buck now stops with you Starmer, you need to own it.

Agree with you. My concern is that the ‘fix the NHS’ narrative will be used as a justification for tax increases in the budget when it would seem that it’s really a question of productivity, waste, and unnecessary management structures…

 

[Chippy_boy]

Party you voted for couldn't solve f@ck all in 14 years ..... yet you expect the incoming party to solve all the shit left behind in 5 weeks .... you're a joke.

Coming from someone who cannot count beyond 5, that's quite amusing.

 

[metalblue]

He also blamed years of austerity

That sounds a political assessment rather than factual - unless he means austerity on services to keep people out? That would be a fair statement I suspect.

Good job Reeves rejects austerity eh?

 

[PPT]

Ad Hominem. Remember, you're against it.

VicTory.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The staff are working their arses off , is he telling nurses and doctors that they should work harder ffs

Most are no doubt. My sister certainly is and always has. However there are one or two in her office that are clearly playing the system and are off sick and then return to work the day their pay gets reduced. Work for the required time and then go off sick again with some made up illness. It annoys the hell out of my sister and the others., but the management do nothing about it. There is also a lot of needless duplication certainly between NHS Trusts.

 

[PPT]

I'd vote for the binface party

Binty McBinface party all day long

 

[PPT]

I get that there are problems to fix, but I wonder how long we are going to hear the excuse that it is down to the last Government.

Apparently they can't pay postmasters and the delay is down to the last government?

Its getting a bit tedious already. The buck now stops with you Starmer, you need to own it.

Bang on the money.

 

[metalblue]

No he is telling them to increase productivity which is quite different. Work smarter not harder. See my post on bed blocking. Darzi also talked about digitisation, a key to productivity. My local hospital where I am a ENT patient, keeps my treatment record in paper files. It’s C21, FFS!
Appointments are patient driven but I can’t even email them.
PS EDIT. The treatment is excellent once they respond to my voice mails.

And resistance to change is often why it is like it. Yours is not a unique experience. It’s all well and good saying work smarter but quite another to make them do so.

 

[mackenzie]

I work in the public sector and have done since 1981.
"Front line" stuff, dealing with the public.

It's undoubtedly hard and the expectations of the Department I work in has changed beyond recognition over the years.

To be honest the Blair years were the best in what was being implemented. A real effort towards trying to understand and addressing the reasons "why" some of the public found it difficult to move forward. It was like a breath of fresh air.

I honestly believe that approach, and also their desire to curtail staff absences due to sickness, were excellent.

 

[WestGorton]

I work in the public sector and have done since 1981.
"Front line" stuff, dealing with the public.

It's undoubtedly hard and the expectations of the Department I work in has changed beyond recognition over the years.

To be honest the Blair years were the best in what was being implemented. A real effort towards trying to understand and addressing the reasons "why" some of the public found it difficult to move forward. It was like a breath of fresh air.

I honestly believe that approach, and also their desire to curtail staff absences due to sickness, were excellent.

Agreed.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I get that there are problems to fix, but I wonder how long we are going to hear the excuse that it is down to the last Government.

Apparently they can't pay postmasters and the delay is down to the last government?

Its getting a bit tedious already. The buck now stops with you Starmer, you need to own it.

It’s not that simple though due to legislation, HMRC etc etc. Firefghters are still waiting on pensions owed, the government were told to do this 2 years ago, then there were tax issues which new legislation had to be drawn up, guess what parliament was dissolved before it could ho through, there are thousands waiting on tens of thousands of pounds in missing pensions. Only two weeks ago was an agreement made that these payments could be made before the legislation was ratified a gentleman’s agreement if you like something those tory wankers kept dragging their feet with, hopefully everyone can be paid before the April 2025 deadline but theres such a backlog it could take longer, and then there’s the rest of the public sector pensions to sort out then, plus the compensation claims. This was all caused by them twats and Labour have been in power a few months but have sorted it already.

 

[WestGorton]

I work in the public sector and have done since 1981.
"Front line" stuff, dealing with the public.

It's undoubtedly hard and the expectations of the Department I work in has changed beyond recognition over the years.

To be honest the Blair years were the best in what was being implemented. A real effort towards trying to understand and addressing the reasons "why" some of the public found it difficult to move forward. It was like a breath of fresh air.

I honestly believe that approach, and also their desire to curtail staff absences due to sickness, were excellent.

Blair and Brown gave hope. I worked in town and within a couple of years the homeless people (not as many as now) slowly disappeared due to their policy. No government is going to be universally liked and not make errors but in my lifetime they were the pick of the bunch. Any British government will back the USA as we would have been speaking German without them. Unfortunately 9/11 happened and thus Iraq and Afghanistan. Too early to judge at present but time will be the reveal. Just my take and I am no prof.

 

[mackenzie]

Blair and Brown gave hope. I worked in town and within a couple of years the homeless people (not as many as now) slowly disappeared due to their policy. No government is going to be universally liked and not make errors but in my lifetime they were the pick of the bunch. Any British government will back the USA as we would have been speaking German without them. Unfortunately 9/11 happened and thus Iraq and Afghanistan. Too early to judge at present but time will be the reveal. Just my take and I am no prof.

I can understand and agree with much of that.
We started to see many from those regions, as you say. Many of their stories were horrible.
Yet I always remember a booked Interpreter (this was in the days when they appeared in person, for a face to face interview for the person involved) refusing to do it. They told us (the staff) "do you really understand who you have here? He is a murderer"

I guess I'm just trying to show the complexities of what was going on at that time, but yes that Government did try initially to sort out the issues of the country. And then shit happened, and it all went to pot.