PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Keeper!]

You say that, but that was about the extent of what UEFA presented to CAS.

Well lets see, as said if the evidence is bullsh1t the consequences will be enormous.

 

[CC1]

100%

That stadium should be bouncing tonight and the b xx players would feed off it.

One positive of the last month is it will toughen up a lot of people at the club and motivate even more and anyone not up for the fight, goodbye!

Agree totally. Problem is a 7.30 kick off rules out many who can’t get away from work before 6. I do know a few that can’t make it tonight. But hopefully we loud & proud will be there singing & cheering!!!

 

[Chappie]

"their evidence was nothing more that a series of Jamie Jackson's questions, jokes from players and managers and articles from English newspapers (or emails from German comics)."

I hate to put a downer on what you say but sadly that can't be the case, this has gone on far too long and at enormous cost for both sides and caused enormous damage to us and the PL.

I do think we are innocent but the PL must have something to go this far.

Both sides needs this over ASAP.

And if what you say is remotely true the PL and Co will have their butts sued for 100s of millions from our execs, and they will be paying for our team rebuilds for the next century.

If they had something it would have been in the public domain by now.

 

[silva_is_gold]

Ah OK. Yes I rate this young man pretty highly and we could do much worse and at a decent price we may do the business.

Me too mate, he's contracted till 2028 but his market value is 20m, hes on 30k a week, only turned 21 last month, be interesting to see if Pep could improve him further, but looks a quality little player tbf, we need to look for a few cheap diamonds because there is some out there

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

I hope the fans make a big noise tonight, the lads need to know their supporters are behind them

 

[Centurions]

Yeah…..this was all a ruse by City, who activated a middle man to lead Pinto to the (fake) evidence, the whole of European football and its governing bodies have been searching for the equivalent of Yamashita’s gold, for over a decade, while City have been busy winning endless trophies, scooping up tonnes of youth talent, made £1B of infrastructure investment, and expanded the CFG to prepare for global domination, all Whilst playing football under the games greatest ever manager….got best seller written all over it

Robert Langdon's next adventure...

 

[Father Paul]

If they had something it would have been in the public domain by now.

Well I just read that whatever it is they do or do not have we are looking at late March even May before a decision. This apparently is due to the large volume of documentation and witness testimony placed before the panel. I suspect much of the so called evidence is bullshit but only a brave man can confidently predict that the PL have no credible case. The never ending story.

 

[halfcenturyup]

"their evidence was nothing more that a series of Jamie Jackson's questions, jokes from players and managers and articles from English newspapers (or emails from German comics)."

I hate to put a downer on what you say but sadly that can't be the case, this has gone on far too long and at enormous cost for both sides and caused enormous damage to us and the PL.

I do think we are innocent but the PL must have something to go this far.

Both sides needs this over ASAP.

And if what you say is remotely true the PL and Co will have their butts sued for 100s of millions from our execs, and they will be paying for our team rebuilds for the next century.

On the one hand, I understand the point of view that the PL must have more evidence than the few emails that were available at CAS. For example, they have presumably had access to all relevant email records and all relevant accounting records which may well have raised considerably more questions. I think it's undeniable they will have more information on which to build their case.

On the other hand, I ask myself exactly what sufficiently cogent evidence they could possibly have that proves on the balance of probabilities that, for example, Mansour provided money to Etihad to pay their sponsorship. There is nothing in the club's accounting or other records that could prove that to the required standard, all the evidence they would need is at third parties. And there has been no indication at all of a third-party whistle-blower or incriminating supporting evidence from third parties.

So, as at CAS, it's most likely a question of balancing circumstantial evidence (things said in emails, things said in presentations, etc) against witness testimony and accounting evidence from the third parties.

I was struggling to see how the PL can clear that hurdle 18 months ago, and I am still struggling.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

"their evidence was nothing more that a series of Jamie Jackson's questions, jokes from players and managers and articles from English newspapers (or emails from German comics)."

I hate to put a downer on what you say but sadly that can't be the case, this has gone on far too long and at enormous cost for both sides and caused enormous damage to us and the PL.

I do think we are innocent but the PL must have something to go this far.

Both sides needs this over ASAP.

And if what you say is remotely true the PL and Co will have their butts sued for 100s of millions from our execs, and they will be paying for our team rebuilds for the next century.

To paraphrase Jimmy Somerville, it’s not necessarily the case that the PL have some mountain of hitherto unseen evidence or, indeed, any real evidence at all.
If they do, then City’s legal team are unfit for the job, as they would have undoubtedly recommended a settlement of some sort.
As with many ‘trials’ the ‘prosecution’ are often unwilling or, indeed, unable to stop the prosecution.
Better for Masters and the PL management (politically of not financially at least) to try and fail rather than to throw the towel in and ‘let City off’ by saying the evidence doesn’t now stack up.

To be fair, city being largely exonerated MIGHT suit the PL as well as it can then be put to bed once and for all.
Of course, should city prevail and the PL then announce they’ll appeal, that knocks that theory into a cocked hat….

 

[Elbow beards]

To paraphrase Jimmy Somerville, it’s not necessarily the case that the PL have some mountain of hitherto unseen evidence or, indeed, any real evidence at all.
If they do, then City’s legal team are unfit for the job, as they would have undoubtedly recommended a settlement of some sort.
As with many ‘trials’ the ‘prosecution’ are often unwilling or, indeed, unable to stop the prosecution.
Better for Masters and the PL management (politically of not financially at least) to try and fail rather than to throw the towel in and ‘let City off’ by saying the evidence doesn’t now stack up.

To be fair, city being largely exonerated MIGHT suit the PL as well as it can then be put to bed once and for all.
Of course, should city prevail and the PL then announce they’ll appeal, that knocks that theory into a cocked hat….

I don't remember Jimmy singing that. It's not very catchy is it?!? :)

 

[halfcenturyup]

To paraphrase Jimmy Somerville, it’s not necessarily the case that the PL have some mountain of hitherto unseen evidence or, indeed, any real evidence at all.
If they do, then City’s legal team are unfit for the job, as they would have undoubtedly recommended a settlement of some sort.
As with many ‘trials’ the ‘prosecution’ are often unwilling or, indeed, unable to stop the prosecution.
Better for Masters and the PL management (politically of not financially at least) to try and fail rather than to throw the towel in and ‘let City off’ by saying the evidence doesn’t now stack up.

To be fair, city being largely exonerated MIGHT suit the PL as well as it can then be put to bed once and for all.
Of course, should city prevail and the PL then announce they’ll appeal, that knocks that theory into a cocked hat….

At this stage, I can't help but put forward my theory that it was the club that put the PL in the very difficult situation of having to choose between dropping the investigation when there were clearly unanswered questions from the investigation that had not been properly countered by evidence from the club / third parties, or referring the unanswered questions to the disciplinary process with the likely outcome being that the "irrefutable" counter-evidence would be provided at that stage.

No-one should have doubted Khaldoon's 30 million email, especially after CAS, and I think the club have played this wonderfully. As we will all see when the club comes out of this largely unscathed and with a substantial proportion of legal fees paid by the PL ;)

 

[Gazza]

I don't remember Jimmy singing that. It's not very catchy is it?!? :)

Fuck knows how long the chorus is.

 

[55yr old teenager]

I don't remember Jimmy singing that. It's not very catchy is it?!? :)

The line was "it ain't necessarily so" to be precise.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Kerkez from Bournemouth mate, decent left back 21 year old

Superb player. I posted about him on here when I watched him make his Bournemouth debut.

 

[Stoned Rose]

To paraphrase Jimmy Somerville, it’s not necessarily the case that the PL have some mountain of hitherto unseen evidence or, indeed, any real evidence at all.
If they do, then City’s legal team are unfit for the job, as they would have undoubtedly recommended a settlement of some sort.
As with many ‘trials’ the ‘prosecution’ are often unwilling or, indeed, unable to stop the prosecution.
Better for Masters and the PL management (politically of not financially at least) to try and fail rather than to throw the towel in and ‘let City off’ by saying the evidence doesn’t now stack up.

To be fair, city being largely exonerated MIGHT suit the PL as well as it can then be put to bed once and for all.
Of course, should city prevail and the PL then announce they’ll appeal, that knocks that theory into a cocked hat….

Was that from some mad b-side?

 

[Keeper!]

If they had something it would have been in the public domain by now.

As said, if they have gone into this with next to nothing we will be suing their butts.

 

[Dodge]

The fucking yanks don't win every war .................

...and they mostly arrive late to the party.

 

[Dodge]

Agree totally. Problem is a 7.30 kick off rules out many who can’t get away from work before 6. I do know a few that can’t make it tonight. But hopefully we loud & proud will be there singing & cheering!!!

Come on mate, if your mates are local, finishing at 6pm is no excuse for sacking this match off.

I'll be starting my 200 mile round trip shortly, sacking it off never crossed my mind.

Tell 'em to get their arses to the Etihad and cheer the boys on.

 

[CC1]

Come on mate, if your mates are local, finishing at 6pm is no excuse for sacking this match off.

I'll be starting my 200 mile round trip shortly, sacking it off never crossed my mind.

Tell 'em to get their arses to the Etihad and cheer the boys on.

That’s good to hear re you dealing with a 200 mile round trip.
It’s not the distance that’s their problem - they go home & away usually but they can’t set off “shortly” because they’re in work! If they get out at 6pm they’ll not make it because they’re ex Mancs & no longer live locally. One has to travel from Stafford & the other from Blackpool - rush hour traffic prevents them getting there before 8pm (if they’re lucky!)

 

[Ric]