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Data on this subject is completely skewed in any event as the police still only manage to record the ethnicity of offenders in barely more than 30% of cases despite being asked to improve on this - I wonder why that might be? On this limited data some numbers this week demonstrated that Pakistani men were 4 times more likely than white men per population to be committing these offences.

Do you have a link to the source those numbers come from?
 
BTH said:
If you mean the far left, the very last thing they ever want was to be in power. In fact, you get the feeling that they would have taken the misery of another Tory Government over a Labour one because a) they loathe Keir Starmer (mainly because he isn't Jeremy Corbyn) and b) so they could say "Told you so." I know it seems mad to the general public but they love nothing more than sitting on the sidelines sniping, carping and hypothesising.
It's dogma over pragmatism every single time with this lot. In fact, they're closer to the far right than the moderates who lean towards or are within the centre ground who, of course, determine the result of every election. They never learn, and that's really why it's not happening.
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You've just described the current Labour hierarchy to a tee. See from 2016/19 for details.

The left (not far left) were labelled as fleas and told to leave. They have every right to tell these cunts to get stuffed.
 
Hertzblue said:
The enquiry you are referencing was very broadly focused, the enquiry being demanded now is to focus specifically on the Pakistani grooming / rape gangs in approximately 50 towns in the UK. Two years maximum is the timeline being touted and a fraction of the cost.It would be no surprise to anyone in a country that is 82% that white the majority of any criminal activity is very probably perpetrated by people who are white. Data on this subject is completely skewed in any event as the police still only manage to record the ethnicity of offenders in barely more than 30% of cases despite being asked to improve on this - I wonder why that might be? On this limited data some numbers this week demonstrated that Pakistani men were 4 times more likely than white men per population to be committing these offences.Without recourse to any of the available statistics it should be plain and obvious to anyone from the multiple documented cases and ongoing investigations that there has been, and in all probability still is a serious problem with the Pakistani community and the grooming and rape of vulnerable, young and predominantly white girls. There is no reason why Starmer cannot implement the recommendations that the Tories failed to do whilst the new enquiry takes place. The reason he will do his best to stonewall requests for the new enquiry is because most of the areas that would be investigated in the new enquiry are Labour controlled and the fall out from the new enquiry will be disastrous for the Labour Party ( I am not of the view that he himself will have much to be concerned about as DPP)
I believe a new enquiry will be held, maybe he will hold it off ,maybe not . If he does the next government will do it.
When it happens those that wished to pretend this wasn't a problem will be ashamed.
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Ok - we investigate the Pakistani grooming gangs in 50 towns in the UK - what about the white/Chinese/ West Indian gangs in those 50 towns and indeed everywhere else in the UK? What about the abuse carried out by lone wolves, family members it would be started in good faith but soon be dragged off course when the victims of white gangs ask why their attackers aren't subject to investigation and the clamour for that to be included in the investigation.
 
Hertzblue said:
The enquiry you are referencing was very broadly focused, the enquiry being demanded now is to focus specifically on the Pakistani grooming / rape gangs in approximately 50 towns in the UK.
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Is that what is "being demanded" or what you think should be demanded?

Hertzblue said:
As MP for Rotherham I think it's fair say she probably knows considerably more than most about Pakistani grooming gangs. Also bear in mind an enquiry has also taken place in Rotherham. Sarah Champion is also an unlikely candidate for jumping on a Far Right bandwagon. She was also sacked back in 2017 by Corbyn for having the temerity to say plainly that there was a problem with Pakistani men in her constituency. So it is important today that she did change her mind and listened to her conscience and supported the need for a new enquiry. Well done again Sarah.View attachment 143069
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Give it up. That was 7 years ago, before the last inquiry reported.
 
Vic said:
Is that what is "being demanded" or what you think should be demanded?



Give it up. That was 7 years ago, before the last inquiry reported.
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Why should the issues which led to Champion leaving her Shadow role in 2017 just be disregarded and ‘given up’, given that the same issues are still playing out across the Labour Party today, all perfectly encapsulated by Starmer’s far right comment?
 
oh dear - the concrete farmer off on a wild goose chase again - the UK PM never attends the inauguration we have an ambassador to do that

 
bluethrunthru said:
oh dear - the concrete farmer off on a wild goose chase again - the UK PM never attends the inauguration we have an ambassador to do that

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Breaking with tradition and inviting world leaders instead of embassy officials.

www.express.co.uk

World leaders invited to Trump inauguration including Milei as Starmer 'snubbed'

Donald Trump is breaking with tradition and inviting foreign leaders to his inauguration - but there is no sign of Keir Starmer on the guest list.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Are we in the much talked about recession that was predicted during the last government ? the knives are out for Starmer and Reeves especially as she has angered the farmers by IHT

I don’t understand why an enquiry into grooming gangs would be bad for a Labour government. If they are labour controlled councils they are the areas where deprivation is extreme it’s not going to be in leafy conservative districts is it? I understand why Starmer wants to implement the recommendations from the last one but he should do another one even if it’s going to cost us a fortune.
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1. As you say it would cost another fortune, a fortune we don't have readily available
2. Another inquiry would take years to conduct and would stall implementation of the current recommendations
3. Implement the recommendations from the extant report and see what changes that brings

I would much rather the Gov spend our money wisely rather than use it for political capital, which is what Starmer is doing
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
No breach of ministerial rules but has become the story.

Had to go. I do wonder what the report says, though?
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I think the story will come when the full investigation is done into the ex Bangladeshi PM and whilst Siddiq may have done nothing wrong, the optics are not great and she has done the right thing.

Like all politician's at her level, she can enjoy her break and will be back in another role soon enough
 
ganganvince said:
Breaking with tradition and inviting world leaders instead of embassy officials.

www.express.co.uk

World leaders invited to Trump inauguration including Milei as Starmer 'snubbed'

Donald Trump is breaking with tradition and inviting foreign leaders to his inauguration - but there is no sign of Keir Starmer on the guest list.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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No UK leader has ever attended - you can put the boot on the other foot and say Trump wouldn't invite Starmer because a "no thanks" in return would hurt his ego
 
blueinsa said:
I think the story will come when the full investigation is done into the ex Bangladeshi PM and whilst Siddiq may have done nothing wrong, the optics are not great and she has done the right thing.

Like all politician's at her level, she can enjoy her break and will be back in another role soon enough
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She’s gone because the investigation being conducted by a few journalists have started to unearth links between members of the Awami League in the UK and the Labour Party leadership, and the support Labour have received in certain constituencies.

Siddiq is a fundamentally dishonest individual and it’s ridiculous she was ever given that role in the Treasury.
 
Don Karleone said:
You've just described the current Labour hierarchy to a tee. See from 2016/19 for details.

The left (not far left) were labelled as fleas and told to leave. They have every right to tell these cunts to get stuffed.
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Several of the far left/Corbynites locally left the Party on the day Keir Starmer apologised to the Jewish community for antisemitism, so draw your own conclusions. I imagine it was a similar story elsewhere.

Needless to say, they haven't been missed, nor would they be welcomed back.
 
Brewster's millions said:
She’s gone because the investigation being conducted by a few journalists have started to unearth links between members of the Awami League in the UK and the Labour Party leadership, and the support Labour have received in certain constituencies.

Siddiq is a fundamentally dishonest individual and it’s ridiculous she was ever given that role in the Treasury.
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As I said, the story is to come I believe and it’s why Starmer has acted and she has resigned before being pushed.
 
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