The Labour Government

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

haha, Trump honest ? Labour dishonest.

I could give you a whole page of Trumps lies if you wish ?

Let's also not pretend you wouldn't vote for Reform. Just to embarrassed to admit it.

That's the worrying thing though isn't it? We can of course come up with pages of Trump lies, Boris johnson lies and farage lies. The fact remains though that starmers entire leadership campaign for labour was based on lies - I think he used the term pledges, and a 'cleansing' of the left from the party on a par with Trump too. The disdain for the electorate by these politicians is clear, cynical, and in my view opens the door to the far right who would otherwise be seen as lacking credibility.

 

[hilts]

Labour looking to give away even more of our money that apparently we haven't got on slavery reparations.

Politics is about making tough decisions, if we have to make old folk cold and dead to help fund a small portion of the money given to islanders that no one knew existed then that seems fair enough. Maybe the islanders could sponsor a British Beryl? Maybe they send a candle and Beryl sends a photo enjoying a cuppa with her coat, hat and scarf on.
I feel a comeback for a new series of Surprise Surprise.

 

[Vic]

"You responded to a post where Cummings concluded "the whole deep state knows it" by saying "Yep, exactly what I thought it'd be."
Did I?
Is this you trying to gaslight me again !! or are you just confused ?
I said no such thing.

You're right. It was another poster that agreed with your original post.

You just quoted Cummings and his idiocy about the deep state

I'd apologise but as you posted the "deep state" stuff in the first place, I'll plead it was an easy mistake to make.

 

[stonerblue]

Which politician is the proven truth teller?

Err....., is it Pitt the Younger?

 

[stonerblue]

None - see my edit.

The only thing I like about Trump is that he is prepared unlike nearly every other politician, to put his money where his mouth is. I hate many of his policies but the electorate elected him on the basis of him delivering.

Now take Labour, they have been dishonest from the start... already quoted the WFA, Employers NI and both of these will work against the working man in a very BIG way. (IMO)

I'm a working man and neither affect me

 

[BigJoe#1]

I'm a working man and neither affect me

just wait until the next financial year and the cost of living and inflation shoots up.Come May/June the evidence will materialise.

i am pleased you are n affected at the moment and I genuinely hope you won't be, but tryst me..... there will be very many people who will be. I too will probably be unaffected but it doesn't stop me thinking about those less fortunate.

Minor point, but I did say "will be affected" as and when the increased Employers NI kicks in.

 

[stonerblue]

just wait until the next financial year and the cost of living and inflation shoots up.Come May/June the evidence will materialise.

i am pleased you are n affected at the moment and I genuinely hope you won't be, but tryst me..... there will be very many people who will be. I too will probably be unaffected but it doesn't stop me thinking about those less fortunate.

Minor point, but I did say "will be affected" as and when the increased Employers NI kicks in.

There is fuck all I can do about either of those things and I won't let the prospect bother me. I can always make a bit more cash.

 

[BigJoe#1]

There is fuck all I can do about either of those things and I won't let the prospect bother me. I can always make a bit more cash.

If you have to and can then, good on you my friend. It's the people who have to and can't to whom I am giving my sympathy to.... and there will be plenty of them, make no mistake.

 

[BigJoe#1]

They need to get on their bikes and get back to work, the disabled may need electric bikes obviously said working class hero Sir Keir Starmer, the titled working class lawyer formerly of Surrey.

Oh, did you know his dad was a toolmaker.... just askin' like?

 

[west didsblue]

just wait until the next financial year and the cost of living and inflation shoots up.Come May/June the evidence will materialise.

i am pleased you are n affected at the moment and I genuinely hope you won't be, but tryst me..... there will be very many people who will be. I too will probably be unaffected but it doesn't stop me thinking about those less fortunate.

Minor point, but I did say "will be affected" as and when the increased Employers NI kicks in.

Why should anyone believe you about what will happen?
You think Trump puts his money where his mouth is and delivers and you think a party led by a racist bullshitting bigot is a sensible option to vote for in Wales.
On that basis you’re totally clueless and Labour’s policies will probably be a roaring success.

 

[hilts]

Err....., is it Pitt the Younger?

No he was actually 92 the fucker :-)

 

[BigJoe#1]

Why should anyone believe you about what will happen?
You think Trump puts his money where his mouth is and delivers and you think a party led by a racist bullshitting bigot is a sensible option to vote for in Wales.
On that basis you’re totally clueless and Labour’s policies will probably be a roaring success.

Wow.... just wow.

I am only expressing an opinion which I believe is the function of a forum, is it not? It is up to individuals to take their own individual viewpoints.

I agree Trump can be and is a very divisive character but, whether you agree with what he does is up to you.Personally I don't agree with quite a lot of it but I do agree with some of it. But and its a big but in my opinion he is doing pretty much what he signposted he would do and for which he was undisputedly elected with a majority - just like Starmer was here.

As for voting options in Wales, they are dire, Plaid Cymru, Labour, Conservatives, Reform UK, Liberal Democrats, what a shit bunch. I have no idea how old you are but I will assume you remember the late '70's early '80's and the winter of discontent and the country being brought to a virtual standstill? Wales is pretty much in that state today. It is sad that a racist bullying leader is literally the best (mainly because he is untried) option.

Having lived in Wales and suffered under Labours policies and total incompetence, again trust me, but you will realise in time, still sometimes people are reluctant to learn from others' mistakes and just have to see for themselves. Don't worry, IMO that lesson is coming to a country near you soon.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Hope Starmer tells Trump to fuck off giving his billionaire mates tax breaks, I bet he doesn’t though.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Hope Starmer tells Trump to fuck off giving his billionaire mates tax breaks, I bet he doesn’t though.

I imagine starmer isn't that opposed to Trump on things like tax breaks for the extremely rich and letting Israel do what it wants. The biggest difference is that Trump is more open and honest about it.

 

[KDB Fan]

Wow.... just wow.

I am only expressing an opinion which I believe is the function of a forum, is it not? It is up to individuals to take their own individual viewpoints.

I agree Trump can be and is a very divisive character but, whether you agree with what he does is up to you.Personally I don't agree with quite a lot of it but I do agree with some of it. But and its a big but in my opinion he is doing pretty much what he signposted he would do and for which he was undisputedly elected with a majority - just like Starmer was here.

As for voting options in Wales, they are dire, Plaid Cymru, Labour, Conservatives, Reform UK, Liberal Democrats, what a shit bunch. I have no idea how old you are but I will assume you remember the late '70's early '80's and the winter of discontent and the country being brought to a virtual standstill? Wales is pretty much in that state today. It is sad that a racist bullying leader is literally the best (mainly because he is untried) option.

Having lived in Wales and suffered under Labours policies and total incompetence, again trust me, but you will realise in time, still sometimes people are reluctant to learn from others' mistakes and just have to see for themselves. Don't worry, IMO that lesson is coming to a country near you soon.

What do you mean you're voting for Reform? How dare you....are you not worried about Sir Keir's donor mates not getting a pay out for selling off British territory? Don't you know you're supposed to vote for Labour no matter how many promises they break or how bad everyone's quality of life gets? If you carry on like this mate, you might have to leave the cult.

 

[mosssideblue]

Which politician is the proven truth teller?

 

[mosssideblue]

What do you mean you're voting for Reform? How dare you....are you not worried about Sir Keir's donor mates not getting a pay out for selling off British territory? Don't you know you're supposed to vote for Labour no matter how many promises they break or how bad everyone's quality of life gets? If you carry on like this mate, you might have to leave the cult.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I imagine starmer isn't that opposed to Trump on things like tax breaks for the extremely rich and letting Israel do what it wants. The biggest difference is that Trump is more open and honest about it.

Sadly true.

 

[KDB Fan]

Short / selective memory?

Was UK’s Covid PPE procurement even worse than we thought? New analysis raises more red flags - Open Contracting Partnership

Transparency International UK (TI-UK) just dropped a damning report on the UK’s pandemic-era procurement of…

www.open-contracting.org

Not even in the same league. Maybe if we paid another country billions to take all of our PPE off us then I might be inclined to agree.

 

[meltonblue]

Ruin our international reputation? Don't know if you've missed the past few months but the only reputation we've now got is for being a police state with some of the most punitive speech laws in the world with more people in prison than Russia for speech crimes and for arresting journalists for 'non-crime hate incidents'.

Britain as the country of Magna Carta and the Bill Of Rights is ancient history as far as our reputation is concerned.

And the only reputation we'll develop by paying billions to Mauritius is being the only mugs to take note of an ICJ advisory decision, let alone an actual order from them!

We should have done what the US did when the ICJ tried to get them to pay compensation for sanctions on Iran and told them to jog on:

ICJ orders US to pay compensation for freezing Iranian assets

In a blow for Iran, however, the UN court said it didn't have jurisdiction over frozen assets from Iran's central bank.

www.aljazeera.com

No I haven’t missed anything, I just don’t get my opinion pieces from Twitter.

Like I said, I despair of the image some want to project of Britain nowadays.