Running thread

[flat earther]

Hi again,
Since I’m already here, let me share some information about the race I participated in — maybe someone might be interested.

As a runner who’s been wanting to transition into triathlon for a long time — like I wrote here earlier this year — I completed my first triathlon on April 13th in Bodrum. It was a really well-organized event, by the way — I highly recommend it.
I just wanted to test myself, so I swam slowly, stayed out of the crowded pack, and didn’t push at all. I bought a cheap bike for now — it even had regular pedals, and I rode it wearing my running shoes.
I had done a lot of bike training and my legs are really strong. It was funny to pass people one by one on the uphills, only to see them fly past me on the downhills — cheap bikes clearly don’t cut it!
I'm planning to seriously prepare for Ironman Belek in November, so I’ll definitely upgrade my bike before then because I want to go into that race competitively — at least for myself.
Oh, and my bike didn’t even have a bottle holder! After swimming 1.2 km, there was a 60 km bike segment. I thought there would be water handed out along the route, but there wasn’t! :))
Honestly, I didn’t even feel thirsty. But after getting off the bike, there was a 15 km trail run, and for the first time in my life, my legs started cramping badly — I couldn’t run properly.
For the first 6 km, I ran in pain. Luckily, at the 3 km mark, there was an aid station where I had some isotonic drinks, and after a while my legs loosened up. It was an interesting experience.
At 45 years old, I finally learned what real cramps feel like! So what’s the lesson? You really do need to drink water while biking. :)
Anyway, it was a truly amazing event and route. Check out the videos... Everyone should come next year. I’m definitely coming back — and this time, competitively!
(ai translated that one, my english is not that good, an ai saves time :)) )

 

[Gaz76]

hi mate, i will come on thursday probably, friday will see Oasis, then fly back on saturday, or sunday. So, that plan, runnin on saturday, sounds good.

Even though I’ll probably have a hangover, I’ll still go out for a run on Saturday — it would be a good way to check out the area and have a little memory run at the park. It would be nice. I’ll message you before I come, and you can tell me the location.
I’ll definitely come back properly prepared for a race in Manchester later on. I’ll write to you about that in the future as well. Thanks again!

Best hangover cure there is

 

[Gaz76]

How did you get on with the Peg Trails? I loved the Pegasus 36 Trail but wasn't as keen on the Pegasus Trail 4.

I've got a 100km event in the Peak District at the end of June and I have no idea what I'm going to wear. It's going to be more of a jog/hike/crawl so I want something cushioned. Won't be the most technical of trails and, depending on the weather, should be quite a dry route with some pebbled paths so don't need massive lugs.

I've been looking at the Hoka Speedgoats and Kilian Jornet's Nnormal brand amongst others but there are so many options out there!

Agree on the so many options mate, it's a minefield with the amount of shoes available nowadays.
Think Nike are on a big slide, they not had a good shoe for a few years now, the new vaporfly are apparently shite as well.
The trails in the peaks "should" be pretty hard at that time of year so you would probably get away with a set of road shoes, the 50 miler I did was mostly trail and pretty much everyone was in road shoes

 

[cmcm0808]

Proper tough do yesterday... I did not make my goal of 3:59:59. Wasn't even close. I was well ahead of pace at Altrincham but entered the pain cave as I ran past the half way mark.

Went out for drinks with my running club mates after, and out of roughly 40 of us, only 2 actually hit their target times. I would honestly say it was the toughest conditions I've ever raced in.

Think it was a similar story for most people in that heat on Sunday. My training had gone really well and I'd prepared for everything except the hot weather. I was hoping to get sub 3:45 and was doing great until 30K. However it psychologically broke me when the 3:45 pacer passed me at 36K. Still managed to hit my B Goal and came in at 3:51, which was a 6 minute PB. Without doubt the toughest race I've ever done and a big learning curve.

 

[flat earther]

Best hangover cure there is

:))) yes exactly. but.... If you didn’t overdo it too much last night, then yes, it feels fine. But there’s one point — if you’ve crossed that line, it can get dangerous. I had to play a match a couple of times in my twenties (and early thirties) in that condition, and it was terrible and risky. :)) but rınning is safe, if you feel bad, you just can stop. not like a football game that you can not quit while your friends are playing :((

 

[supercity88]

Think it was a similar story for most people in that heat on Sunday. My training had gone really well and I'd prepared for everything except the hot weather. I was hoping to get sub 3:45 and was doing great until 30K. However it psychologically broke me when the 3:45 pacer passed me at 36K. Still managed to hit my B Goal and came in at 3:51, which was a 6 minute PB. Without doubt the toughest race I've ever done and a big learning curve.

Excellent effort. Unless you have the ability to train in heat during the build up, it's going to punish people and I don't think going out slower would make much difference because at some point it's going to bite. All about hydration and again, unless you can simulate the heat in training it's all a bit of an experiment. To get a PB by 6mins and only be the same time away from your target time is impressive.

I know plenty who did London and ended up a good 15-30 minutes away from where they hoped/planned to be.

 

[Glenn Ponder]

Agree on the so many options mate, it's a minefield with the amount of shoes available nowadays.
Think Nike are on a big slide, they not had a good shoe for a few years now, the new vaporfly are apparently shite as well.
The trails in the peaks "should" be pretty hard at that time of year so you would probably get away with a set of road shoes, the 50 miler I did was mostly trail and pretty much everyone was in road shoes

I did 25km there last year and conditions were perfect but that might not be the case this time round. It looks warm over there at the minute so you might run out of sun by June and it'll be pissing it down!

Agree about Nike. My last few pairs have been Puma and I've just bought a pair of Adidas SL2s that I'm liking for daily use. How did your new Pumas perform at the weekend?

 

[Gaz76]

I did 25km there last year and conditions were perfect but that might not be the case this time round. It looks warm over there at the minute so you might run out of sun by June and it'll be pissing it down!

Agree about Nike. My last few pairs have been Puma and I've just bought a pair of Adidas SL2s that I'm liking for daily use. How did your new Pumas perform at the weekend?

Yep the pumas are great, I've been on the puma elite bus since the first ones, ran my marathon PB in the elite 1 (3hrs 14 fucking seconds!!!)
Might be a bit early for a yep go buy them kind of review on the fast r elite, but yep they are springy and light, although I realised after a few km on Sunday it was probably a daft decision to run a new untried pair straight out of the box, should really have waited until I knew how to get the best out of them foot strike wise and all that razzle dazzle, don't get me wrong they kept me going and my legs are brand new after the mara, but I doubt I would try that kind of gamble again, they do really need a good mid/front foot strike as I found in the later miles when my form went a bit and I dropped a few heel strikes which was not pretty as there's hardly anything at the back of the shoe, still mega excited about what's to come from them though

 

[Glenn Ponder]

Yep the pumas are great, I've been on the puma elite bus since the first ones, ran my marathon PB in the elite 1 (3hrs 14 fucking seconds!!!)
Might be a bit early for a yep go buy them kind of review on the fast r elite, but yep they are springy and light, although I realised after a few km on Sunday it was probably a daft decision to run a new untried pair straight out of the box, should really have waited until I knew how to get the best out of them foot strike wise and all that razzle dazzle, don't get me wrong they kept me going and my legs are brand new after the mara, but I doubt I would try that kind of gamble again, they do really need a good mid/front foot strike as I found in the later miles when my form went a bit and I dropped a few heel strikes which was not pretty as there's hardly anything at the back of the shoe, still mega excited about what's to come from them though

Good review. They definitely sound like fun!

 

[Gaz76]

Good review. They definitely sound like fun!

Thanks mate, I'm half considering launching a YouTube channel reviewing shoes, but think I would probably be banned for swearing and calling the rest of the shoetubers lying cunts

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Thanks mate, did the Manchester to Liverpool ultra, 50 miler, finished in 7.51 and 49th place, 5th in age category, pretty pleased with that for my first go at the big boy miles

Wow. Respect Sir.

 

[Glenn Ponder]

Thanks mate, I'm half considering launching a YouTube channel reviewing shoes, but think I would probably be banned for swearing and calling the rest of the shoetubers lying cunts

Haha. I'd subscribe! A lot of them need calling out.

 

[Gaz76]

Haha. I'd subscribe! A lot of them need calling out.

They really do mate, it's all just freebies galore, I do follow edd bud who seems to be pretty genuine and he does make a point of saying that he paid for them himself or was sent a pair for an honest review, but I also know that he got an all expenses paid trip to Boston off puma

 

[Glenn Ponder]

They really do mate, it's all just freebies galore, I do follow edd bud who seems to be pretty genuine and he does make a point of saying that he paid for them himself or was sent a pair for an honest review, but I also know that he got an all expenses paid trip to Boston off puma

Yeah, I do like Edd. A bit closer to my running level so I get more from his reviews than someone running a 2:20 marathon and showing me how he makes his coffee before every run! (Not naming any names)

 

[Gaz76]

Yeah, I do like Edd. A bit closer to my running level so I get more from his reviews than someone running a 2:20 marathon and showing me how he makes his coffee before every run! (Not naming any names)

Haha I shall keep my making of a brew off the YouTube then!!

This week's plonker of the week surely has to go to Joe wicks, have you seen him going on about people slowing down in running, basically it took him six hours I think to do the London marathon, and is claiming it more fun and inclusive if people just walk a bit......man's a fucking idiot, most folk train for months, years even to be able to run a marathon, that's the whole point, not just some gobshite taking up a place and saying let's change it so I can feel included

 

[Glenn Ponder]

Haha I shall keep my making of a brew off the YouTube then!!

This week's plonker of the week surely has to go to Joe wicks, have you seen him going on about people slowing down in running, basically it took him six hours I think to do the London marathon, and is claiming it more fun and inclusive if people just walk a bit......man's a fucking idiot, most folk train for months, years even to be able to run a marathon, that's the whole point, not just some gobshite taking up a place and saying let's change it so I can feel included

Fortunately I hadn't seen that but you're spot on. Nothing against people going out and challenging themselves in a group and having fun but the London marathon isn't the place to be doing that. You'd be gutted if you'd tried and failed to get in year after year to then see some knob stopping to have a chat and getting the crowd going all for the cameras.

 

[franksinatra]

How did you get on with the Peg Trails? I loved the Pegasus 36 Trail but wasn't as keen on the Pegasus Trail 4.

I've got a 100km event in the Peak District at the end of June and I have no idea what I'm going to wear. It's going to be more of a jog/hike/crawl so I want something cushioned. Won't be the most technical of trails and, depending on the weather, should be quite a dry route with some pebbled paths so don't need massive lugs.

I've been looking at the Hoka Speedgoats and Kilian Jornet's Nnormal brand amongst others but there are so many options out there!

Had a mare with my shoe choice, did the first 32mile in puma deviate nitro elite 3 which was all gravy, got the Mrs to meet me at mile 32 with a pair of metaspeeds that I hadn't used for ages, fucked if I know why I thought that would be a good idea, it wasn't, ran about 200m and realised my error, was in 20th position at that stage, last 18 miles were a lot tougher than they could have been.
What's the peg trails like nowadays? I was a big fan of the early ones but they seemed to go a bit shit after them

It’s a bit of a mixed bag with the Peg 4s.

As Gaz alluded to, In another post, as the trails are pretty firm currently I went with the Peg 4s for a trail race half, but felt a bit beaten up later.

I run a lot of daily miles, round my local woods, country parks and upto 16k I think they are great and really enjoy the responsiveness as they are pretty light so even great for sprints/intervals etc.

However over a half marathon I seem to be developing a few blisters on the side of the foot, end of my toe so I think they must run a bit tight. Never had this problem before with Nikes and I have two pairs of the Pegs and the same problem with both.

Still trying to find the right shoe. Next purchase will be the Hoka Texton X as I thought the earlier iteration was a great show.

 

[willipp]

Thanks mate, I'm half considering launching a YouTube channel reviewing shoes, but think I would probably be banned for swearing and calling the rest of the shoetubers lying cunts

Can you make a youtube channel and review cheap running trainers and say they are amazing. Might save me a few quid on my son who is bloody obsessed with running shoes and the carbon plated expensive things. I thought when he got into athletics it would be a nice cheap sport, how wrong i was.

 

[Gremlin]

Thanks mate, I'm half considering launching a YouTube channel reviewing shoes, but think I would probably be banned for swearing and calling the rest of the shoetubers lying cunts

What's the point in watching other people's reviews of shoes? Fit is such a personal thing that what is a great shoe for one person might be a nightmare for someone else. I've used the same make and model of shoe for the last 10 years because they work for me. I just get a new pair every 500 miles.

 

[Glenn Ponder]

It’s a bit of a mixed bag with the Peg 4s.

As Gaz alluded to, In another post, as the trails are pretty firm currently I went with the Peg 4s for a trail race half, but felt a bit beaten up later.

I run a lot of daily miles, round my local woods, country parks and upto 16k I think they are great and really enjoy the responsiveness as they are pretty light so even great for sprints/intervals etc.

However over a half marathon I seem to be developing a few blisters on the side of the foot, end of my toe so I think they must run a bit tight. Never had this problem before with Nikes and I have two pairs of the Pegs and the same problem with both.

Still trying to find the right shoe. Next purchase will be the Hoka Texton X as I thought the earlier iteration was a great show.

Ahh, you've got the 4s too. I've got nearly 700km in mine and they've been alright but nowhere near as good as the Pegasus 36 trail. I've taken the 4s up to 25km a few times and you're right about the blisters so I think a half marathon is probably the limit.

The 5s have got really good reviews (Edd Bud at least) but I think 100km in them might be pushing it. The Texton X look interesting so I'll take a look at those.

Cheers