PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I have it on good authority that the verdict will, or will not, be announced in the next week, month, or year or two. It is pretty clear that City are totally innocent, or totally guilty, or somewhere in between, that is for sure. The sanctions, if found guilty, in whole or part, will be severe, or a slap on the wrist, or a compromise. The only certainty is that there will be an appeal by the losing party. It kind of reminds me of the Jarndyce v Jarndyce probate case in Dickens’ Bleak House.

Hope this inside knowledge reassures everyone.
 
slbsn said:
I really hate to break it to you, but the parties do not know. I have spoken to or heard from multiple very good sources confirming this (from all sides inc City). Obviously, it could have changed last week (perhaps they received a draft on Friday for example) but besides that, the parties have simply not had the judgment or outcome. I would say there is a pretty good chance we will hear in the next 2/3 weeks though.

How exactly do you think they would explain not telling the public until months after the date of the decision? It would be impossible and simply add to the appearance of stitch up.

There is little to explain. A huge trial takes months to get a decision on.
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Totally agree that neither side know the outcome but their KCs must have given them their views on how things went & surely they are experienced enough to know if their presentations were credible & whether the PLs presentations came across as unbiased & professional?
That’s the information the club WILL have.
The machinations of the panel, we hope, are professional & unbiased - not influenced by red top clubs? If not - then the saga goes on via appeals.
 
mexico1970 said:
What people are suggesting is that they will have more than a good idea of how well it's gone and what the ruling will be. Unless of course the judges have judged boxing competitions at any Olympic games where corruption abounds.
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I am only talking of he people who say we know the outcome not those that are saying we are confident so don’t argue with my or deliberately misconstrue my comments
 
WRicko said:
I am only talking of he people who say we know the outcome not those that are saying we are confident so don’t argue with my or deliberately misconstrue my comments
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I mentioned what other people meant I didn't mention what you meant or typed, you can think what you want that's up to you.
 
Both parties do know the outcome but obviously we have run out of brown paper envelopes and Trump has slapped huge tariffs on brown paper that is why Kahldoon was in the Oval office the other week to negotiate a brown paper trade deal.
Once it's agreed we can get more brown envelopes and announce to the world that we got off with it.
It's dead obvious.
 
BAB.DAB said:
Like when Simon Mullock couldn't publish the truth about liverpool hacking our database, liverpool lawyers stopped him, so ended up publishing an article about a premier league club hacking another premier league club's database
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I haven’t seen Mullock confirm that story, but let’s say it’s true.

It shows he didn’t sit on it. He wanted to publish and would have published had he been able to. Presumably in this scenario it could be some sort of injunction.

But anyway, it most certainly wouldn’t have been because Mullock was protecting a source under some kind of moral code, as is the suggestion in this thread.

We also need to consider the order of magnitude of these stories and public interest. Contrary to opinion on here, the hacking story wasn’t that big, certainly in the context of the 115 case.

If Mullock had the scoop on 115 and he and his newspaper 100% certain it’s true, I dare say they go ahead and publish anyway and deal with the consequences later.

And if we’re at the point where it’s going to court with the premier league taking out injunctions against the MEN to prevent publication, you can bet your bottom dollar it would have leaked fast and wide.

If the MEN has this story, it gets published, so I don’t believe they do.

Last comment because I’m going to the pub.
 
Blue Pete said:
I've heard a rumour that Stefan (slbsn) has heard the result but he's not telling us, because we don't deserve to know. It must be true because it came from my goldfish - and he's got very good contacts.
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And nice fins
 
mexico1970 said:
I mentioned what other people meant I didn't mention what you meant or typed, you can think what you want that's up to you.
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So when I respond to people who say we know the outcome your reading their mind from miles away and interpreting the meaning to mean something else ( not that we know the result but that we think we know the answer and then decide to wade into my comments
 
WRicko said:
So when I respond to people who say we know the outcome your reading their mind from miles away and interpreting the meaning to mean something else ( not that we know the result but that we think we know the answer and then decide to wade into my comments
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If you think that commenting on what other people think is "Wading in"? the mind boggles really.

It's a message board not your personal diary.
 
slbsn said:
I really hate to break it to you, but the parties do not know. I have spoken to or heard from multiple very good sources confirming this (from all sides inc City). Obviously, it could have changed last week (perhaps they received a draft on Friday for example) but besides that, the parties have simply not had the judgment or outcome. I would say there is a pretty good chance we will hear in the next 2/3 weeks though.

How exactly do you think they would explain not telling the public until months after the date of the decision? It would be impossible and simply add to the appearance of stitch up.

There is little to explain. A huge trial takes months to get a decision on.
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I really hate to break it you Stefan but alas you are the one that is wrong. Both parties have known the outcome for months but they are not telling anyone they do for the very obvious reason that it will be a very bad day for one of them when it happens - and for the avoidance if doubt that is the PL.

As you wisely predicted over two years ago when the charges were laid they are impossible to prove - it's really that simple. The redshirt cartel running the show don't care about the outcome - just about continuing their decade long campaign of lies and smears designed to damage the reputation of a rival who is threatening their income streams.
 
johnny crossan said:
I really hate to break it you Stefan but alas you are the one that is wrong. Both parties have known the outcome for months but they are not telling anyone they do for the very obvious reason that it will be a very bad day for one of them when it happens - and for the avoidance if doubt that is the PL.

As you wisely predicted over two years ago when the charges were laid they are impossible to prove - it's really that simple. The redshirt cartel running the show don't care about the outcome - just about continuing their decade long campaign of lies and smears designed to damage the reputation of a rival who is threatening their income streams.
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I have no idea on the outcome, but my only reliable ketchup is telling me they have received it.

Can understand Khaldoon respecting the procedure though.
 
slbsn said:
I really hate to break it to you, but the parties do not know. I have spoken to or heard from multiple very good sources confirming this (from all sides inc City). Obviously, it could have changed last week (perhaps they received a draft on Friday for example) but besides that, the parties have simply not had the judgment or outcome. I would say there is a pretty good chance we will hear in the next 2/3 weeks though.

How exactly do you think they would explain not telling the public until months after the date of the decision? It would be impossible and simply add to the appearance of stitch up.

There is little to explain. A huge trial takes months to get a decision on.
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I’ve no doubt both sides don’t know and it would be foolish to think otherwise. I just think one side came out of the room full of confidence and the other came out with the confidence hitting the floor.

When the premier league are asked a question since the trial is over it’s just a boring mundane answer. When city are asked a similar question it’s. Just “wait and see” with a big smile

I’m most likely completely wrong but that’s what im holding all my hope s in
 
I'd say judging by khaldoon and his body language plus his cool delivery of answering the question about the charges he knows. He definitely knows.

And on the flipside I'd say the premier League know the outcome because nothing has leaked about a victory for them and we all know that fat fucking ponce masters and his red lapdogs would be leaking it all over the shop if the Premier League had so much a whiff of victory.

Nothing to be worried about.

All is good in the hood..
 
Ric said:
I think it's pretty clear that neither side knows the outcome at this stage. Hopefully we'll get a verdict soon though, as this has dragged on for way too long.
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You can't be serious - it's 5 months after concluding arguments. The Blind Pugh could see that if we'd been nailed the PL client media would have been screaming it from the rooftops the day after the panel rose. We wouldn't now be hyperactive in the transfer market again after spending big in January attracting an elite player on a long term contract and extending Haaland to 10 years. Just wouldn't be happening if the board were found to have intentionally falsified our financial position for 9 years to break FFP rules.

The parties have to agree the publication date and no doubt also have the opportunity to go back for clarification before that happens - that's clearly what happening now with the redshirt cartel stringing it out as long as they can before doomsday. Cheats and liars exposed to all - tick tock!
 
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johnny crossan said:
You can't be serious - it's 5 months after concluding arguments. The Blind Pugh could see that if we'd been nailed the PL client media would have been screaming it from the rooftops the day after the panel rose. We wouldn't now be hyperactive in transfer market again after spending big in January attracting an elite player on a long term contract and extending Haaland to 10 years. Just wouldn't be happening if the board were found to have intentionally falsified our financial position for 9 years to break FFP rules.

The parties have to agree the publication date and no doubt also have the opportunity to go back for clarification before that happens - that's clearly what happening now with the redshirt cartel stringing it out as long as they can before doomsday. Cheats and liars exposed to all - tick tock!
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There's certainly plenty of soft signals to suggest that the club think it has gone well for them, but I genuinely believe they haven't had the official verdict yet.
 
johnny crossan said:
You can't be serious - it's 5 months after concluding arguments. The Blind Pugh could see that if we'd been nailed the PL client media would have been screaming it from the rooftops the day after the panel rose. We wouldn't now be hyperactive in transfer market again after spending big in January attracting an elite player on a long term contract and extending Haaland to 10 years. Just wouldn't be happening if the board were found to have intentionally falsified our financial position for 9 years to break FFP rules.

The parties have to agree the publication date and no doubt also have the opportunity to go back for clarification before that happens - that's clearly what happening now with the redshirt cartel stringing it out as long as they can before doomsday. Cheats and liars exposed to all - tick tock!
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That all sounds great. Not sure how the red clubs are stringing it out or how you know that - clearly?

But yes undoubtedly the signs are positive, Haalands contract, the owners confidence.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
You've clearly no idea how the media works. Many stories get suppressed or minimised because the journalist or paper doesn't want to destroy their relationship with the source, or is promised an exclusive. There are huge stories about former international players that I know about but have never seen the light of day.

Let's put it another way. Your best mate tells you something, and asks you not to tell anyone else as it's just between the two of you. But you do tell others and the story is all over town. Do you think your mate would trust you with a secret again?
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Ric said:
I think it's pretty clear that neither side knows the outcome at this stage. Hopefully we'll get a verdict soon though, as this has dragged on for way too long.
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While there are differing opinions on this.. it's interesting that:

Even the rags who are able to critically think are starting to get it now!

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