PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Semper aggressus said:
It seems to me that currently the cartel and PL’s plans are working. Look how shit we’ve become compared to just two years ago. All because we can’t spend as much as we need on top players.

Meanwhile, fucking scouse twats can spend £400 million including tapping up a rival’s player, despite Newcastle’s owners being far wealthier, yet not a peep from the PL, FA or UEFA. Never anything about rags’ half a billion debt either, and despite no CL again they can still spend about £200m. Arsenal spend similar, on top of being able to buy Rice for over £100m two years ago.

Why are we as a club putting up with this shit and letting these corrupt bastards hobble us?

Once this 115 bullshit is thrown out of court, we’d better go after all those red shirt fuckers for hundreds of millions, as well as making up for having to do with mostly second rate, cheaper signings by splashing about half a billion in one summer like Liverpool are allowed to do.

If not, why not?
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We have spent the money, just been absolutely horrible with most of our transfers and ended up with a far weaker squad. Down to who ever selects our targets
 
Semper aggressus said:
It seems to me that currently the cartel and PL’s plans are working. Look how shit we’ve become compared to just two years ago. All because we can’t spend as much as we need on top players.

Meanwhile, fucking scouse twats can spend £400 million including tapping up a rival’s player, despite Newcastle’s owners being far wealthier, yet not a peep from the PL, FA or UEFA. Never anything about rags’ half a billion debt either, and despite no CL again they can still spend about £200m. Arsenal spend similar, on top of being able to buy Rice for over £100m two years ago.

Why are we as a club putting up with this shit and letting these corrupt bastards hobble us?

Once this 115 bullshit is thrown out of court, we’d better go after all those red shirt fuckers for hundreds of millions, as well as making up for having to do with mostly second rate, cheaper signings by splashing about half a billion in one summer like Liverpool are allowed to do.

If not, why not?
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We have spent a ton of money. What the fuck are you even talking about?
 
Semper aggressus said:
It seems to me that currently the cartel and PL’s plans are working. Look how shit we’ve become compared to just two years ago. All because we can’t spend as much as we need on top players.

Meanwhile, fucking scouse twats can spend £400 million including tapping up a rival’s player, despite Newcastle’s owners being far wealthier, yet not a peep from the PL, FA or UEFA. Never anything about rags’ half a billion debt either, and despite no CL again they can still spend about £200m. Arsenal spend similar, on top of being able to buy Rice for over £100m two years ago.

Why are we as a club putting up with this shit and letting these corrupt bastards hobble us?

Once this 115 bullshit is thrown out of court, we’d better go after all those red shirt fuckers for hundreds of millions, as well as making up for having to do with mostly second rate, cheaper signings by splashing about half a billion in one summer like Liverpool are allowed to do.

If not, why not?
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Who says we can’t spend as much?
 
roy.or.r said:
We have spent a ton of money. What the fuck are you even talking about?
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Not on proper top drawer players that immediately improve the first team. And always seemingly backing out if another club puts in a bid. We’re not improving are we, transfers recently have been below the level we should be going after. Hell, we flew fucking Wirtz over then let him fuck off to Liverpool. Fucking about with bloody Nunes and Lewis at RB instead of paying whatever for Livramento, or before Liverpool got him Frimpong.
 
half & half derby scarf said:
Power dynamics have changed.

1. Cartel clubs tell PL to stop City or they will form breakaway league.
2. PL panic and come up with flimsy charges.
3. PL lose credibility
4. Cartel have the power and spend whatever they want knowing they've won.
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Agree with 1,2 &3 but as for 4 - we could have spent too. We had a better net figure than most clubs but we didn’t.
 
Semper aggressus said:
It seems to me that currently the cartel and PL’s plans are working. Look how shit we’ve become compared to just two years ago. All because we can’t spend as much as we need on top players.

Meanwhile, fucking scouse twats can spend £400 million including tapping up a rival’s player, despite Newcastle’s owners being far wealthier, yet not a peep from the PL, FA or UEFA. Never anything about rags’ half a billion debt either, and despite no CL again they can still spend about £200m. Arsenal spend similar, on top of being able to buy Rice for over £100m two years ago.

Why are we as a club putting up with this shit and letting these corrupt bastards hobble us?

Once this 115 bullshit is thrown out of court, we’d better go after all those red shirt fuckers for hundreds of millions, as well as making up for having to do with mostly second rate, cheaper signings by splashing about half a billion in one summer like Liverpool are allowed to do.

If not, why not?
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We've spent plenty of money. Could we have spent more? Probably. But let's not pretend any financial rules have hindered us but allowed others to spend to pull away. We've just not spent well.

The 115 hasn't been the issue when it comes to the state of our team now versus two years ago. It's poor squad planning and poor purchasing. We could have not signed Reis and/or Gonzalez and spent that money on a right back. The squad would have been in a better place, but the club chose not to. Don't even get me started on the money spent on Phillips and Nunes.

Whilst the PL may be a bunch of corrupt bastards, I don't think they have been hobbling us, it very much feels like we've been hobbling ourselves.
 
Semper aggressus said:
Not on proper top drawer players that immediately improve the first team. And always seemingly backing out if another club puts in a bid. We’re not improving are we, transfers recently have been below the level we should be going after. Hell, we flew fucking Wirtz over then let him fuck off to Liverpool. Fucking about with bloody Nunes and Lewis at RB instead of paying whatever for Livramento, or before Liverpool got him Frimpong.
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So we should've paid hazards agents off the books like Chelsea did . ?
End of day we don't know what happens in negotiations and what other clubs are prepared to do with little or no consequence
We're in witch hunt already with most scrutinised books in football
 
bluemc said:
We've spent plenty of money. Could we have spent more? Probably. But let's not pretend any financial rules have hindered us but allowed others to spend to pull away. We've just not spent well.

The 115 hasn't been the issue when it comes to the state of our team now versus two years ago. It's poor squad planning and poor purchasing. We could have not signed Reis and/or Gonzalez and spent that money on a right back. The squad would have been in a better place, but the club chose not to. Don't even get me started on the money spent on Phillips and Nunes.

Whilst the PL may be a bunch of corrupt bastards, I don't think they have been hobbling us, it very much feels like we've been hobbling ourselves.
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You’re probably right, which in some ways is even more frustrating!
 
Semper aggressus said:
It seems to me that currently the cartel and PL’s plans are working. Look how shit we’ve become compared to just two years ago. All because we can’t spend as much as we need on top players.

Meanwhile, fucking scouse twats can spend £400 million including tapping up a rival’s player, despite Newcastle’s owners being far wealthier, yet not a peep from the PL, FA or UEFA. Never anything about rags’ half a billion debt either, and despite no CL again they can still spend about £200m. Arsenal spend similar, on top of being able to buy Rice for over £100m two years ago.

Why are we as a club putting up with this shit and letting these corrupt bastards hobble us?

Once this 115 bullshit is thrown out of court, we’d better go after all those red shirt fuckers for hundreds of millions, as well as making up for having to do with mostly second rate, cheaper signings by splashing about half a billion in one summer like Liverpool are allowed to do.

If not, why not?
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Doesn’t matter how much money a shareholder of a club has.

Newcastle’s income was only 52% of Liverpool’s last season, and going back years is far lower than that. Since 2019 Liverpool’s income has been just short of £3b, while Newcastle’s has only been just over £1b in the same period. Plus Newcastle had base losses in three of those years.

For years I’ve said, ‘where the fuck does the money go at Liverpool?’.

Liverpool are far wealthier than Newcastle.

Plus City have spent a fortune. In the last five years our total outgoing spend has been a flat £1b. That’s more than everyone apart from Chelsea (£1.82b) and United (£1.09b) [Arsenal (£0.99b) and Liverpool (£0.91b)].

In 2025 alone, we’ve seen £304m go out on transfers.

We aren’t being hobbled. Grealish aside, we have never gone all out and thrown massive money at individual transfer fees. We pulled out of transfer negotiations for loads of players so we wouldn’t be held to spending too much, going back to Pogba in 2016. That’s our transfer model, our choice.

Last season saw key players like Stones, Aké, Dias, Rodri, Grealish and Foden miss anything from 20 to 53 games through injury. De Bruyne was only available for 30 games in all comps and in 13 of those he started on the bench even though we had massive injury problems elsewhere. Plus Walker’s head fell off.
This meant we had to rely on young lads, squad players and new signings most of the time which skews our perception on the squad making us think our squad’s a mess.

If Stones, Aké, Dias, Rodri, Grealish and Foden had all been fit and firing over the last 13 months, nobody would be talking about our transfer activity because most of the lads we’ve been relying on would be bit-part players. But they haven’t been, plus Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us, so we’ve had to sign a huge amount of players in a short space of time, mostly young lads with no experience who need more patience and more support to get behind them while they develop into good players in their prime for us to be back up challenging in a few years. We wouldn’t have been able to go out with £75m on each player because we’ve needed to sign so many in two windows, and the plan for them has been to buy young for long term goals, not just to plug short term gaps. And we’re also going to need big spend in the next few Transfer Windows to replace even more players who will be leaving soon, whereas Liverpool and Arsenal will probably have to sign the odd squad player over the next year, if that.

And who’s to say top players would have wanted to sign for us anyway?

Yeah, Kane wanted to, but we didn’t want to spend £120m on him and were patient in waiting a year for Haaland for about 40% of the fee Kane would have cost. But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us… and with most of them we wouldn’t have spent the money required to sign them anyway, we’d have pulled out like we did with Kane because that’s what we always do when players would cost too much. There’s nothing we can do about that and it’s nothing to do with any charges are rules that are in place.
 
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.db. said:
Doesn’t matter how much money a shareholder of a club has.

Newcastle’s income was only 52% of Liverpool’s last season, and going back years is far lower than that. Since 2019 Liverpool’s income has been just short of £3b, while Newcastle’s has only been just over £1b in the same period. Plus Newcastle had base losses in three of those years.

For years I’ve said, ‘where the fuck does the money go at Liverpool?’.

Liverpool are far wealthier than Newcastle.

Plus City have spent a fortune. In the last five years our total outgoing spend has been a flat £1b. That’s more than everyone apart from Chelsea (£1.82b) and United (£1.09b) [Arsenal (£0.99b) and Liverpool (£0.91b)].

In 2025 alone, we’ve seen £304m go out on transfers.

We aren’t being hobbled. Grealish aside, we have never gone all out and thrown massive money at individual transfer fees. We pulled out of transfer negotiations for loads of players so we wouldn’t be held to spending too much, going back to Pogba in 2016. That’s our transfer model, our choice.

Last season saw key players like Stones, Aké, Dias, Rodri, Grealish and Foden miss anything from 20 to 53 games through injury. De Bruyne was only available for 30 games in all comps and in 13 of those he started on the bench even though we had massive injury problems elsewhere. Plus Walker’s head fell off.
This meant we had to rely on young lads, squad players and new signings most of the time which skews our perception on the squad making us think our squad’s a mess.

If Stones, Aké, Dias, Rodri, Grealish and Foden had all been fit and firing over the last 13 months, nobody would be talking about our transfer activity because most of the lads we’ve been relying on would be bit-part players. But they haven’t been, plus Walker, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us, so we’ve had to sign a huge amount of players in a short space of time, mostly young lads with no experience who need more patience and more support to get behind them while they develop into good players in their prime for us to be back up challenging in a few years. We wouldn’t have been able to go out with £75m on each player because we’ve needed to sign so many in two windows, and the plan for them has been to buy young for long term goals, not just to plug short term gaps.

And who’s to say top players would have wanted to sign for us anyway?

Yeah, Kane wanted to, but we didn’t want to spend £120m on him and were patient in waiting a year for Haaland for about 40% of the fee Kane would have cost. But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us… and with most of them we wouldn’t have spent the money required to sign them anyway, we’d have pulled out like we did with Kane because that’s what we always do when players would cost too muc. There’s nothing we can do about that and it’s nothing to do with any charges are rules that are in place.
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This is closer to the mark than poor buying.
 
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