PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

johnevans said:
Mind, my Old Man introduced my brothers, sisters and I to both City and Puccini et al at an early age, so thanks to him for that.

Many connections between the highbrow trilling and the 'working class opera' we all know and love so much.. I mean, for example, who could forget the flying winger for Bradford City in the early 60s who performed at Valley Parade of an afternoon then sang tenor leads at The Alhambra of an evening, Les O'Pavarotti..? He was nicknamed 'The Bantam of the Opera'*..

(* All right, all right, I'll get me coat..)
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Could Puccini do it on a cold night in Stoke?
 
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Milesvk said:
I'm used to taking his word as gospel, pretty much any discussion i have had with people on the outside (of bluemoon) is based on what he has said on various podcasts.

Just something as a side note and could be seen as another "soft signal". With the arsenal CEO and spurs chairman leaving suddenly, this has set our little minds going and trying to link it to 115. Ian cheesman interviewed a Labour MP when the white paper of the football regulator come out, the MP stated then that the red cartel had far too much influence in the running of the prem league, they were his words.
Could there something sizemic in the background be going on. Could this 115 case opened up a massive can of worms.
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Sizemic for us or the Premier League?
 
halfcenturyup said:
I never take anyone's word as gospel. Especially these days. I take everyone's view on board and come to my own conclusions. Often wrongly, but at least they are my own work :)

Clearly more weight is given to people who know what they are talking about. I am just not sure, when it comes to timing and what is going on behind the scenes, if anything at all, that anyone knows anything apart from, say, ten people on the planet who aren't going to spill the beans. It's all just noise, so my advice is to be patient and take time to understand the nuance when the decision is finally released.
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I could be wrong but I find it difficult to believe that they'll write up all the proceedings completely dispassionately then say, "Right, what do we think? Proven or not proven?" for every single instance.

It's more likely they'll have pretty well made their minds up by the end of the hearing in most cases. There may be some debates about levels of proof, or the weight of some of the evidence and going back to the evidence presented, but there are only 3 substantive charges, plus the issue of non-cooperation, so it should be pretty clear to them whether the PL has made its case to a sufficient level of cogency by the end of the hearing.

I've had a second source unconnected to my original source tell me that the broad outcome was clear 6 months ago, even if the formal verdict wasn't. Is the delay due to attempts at damage limitation? Are the departures of Levy & Lewis connected or coincidental?

We'll find out soon hopefully.
 
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Milesvk said:
Stefan stated some weeks ago his theory that we could see verdict within next few weeks and he would be surprised if it ran into October without a verdict. I asked him would his surprise turn to concern of a positive outcome for us if it went into October without a verdict, he said yes.
So the positive side of me is thinking the verdict will be out this week.
The negative side is thinking we could be in the shit, which then leads me to a optimism side of could we be negotiating a deal, hence the delay.

If positive verdict it has me thinking, could the feeling be up there with 93:20, Istanbul, 3-2 villa or will it be a different feeling of joy.
I personally think its absolutely huge in a way like the Dickov goal, had that not happened could the club have done a forest, sheff wed and languish in the doldrums for years and possibly the club would not be what they are today.
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Sounds like you glass is always half empty and not half full. ;)
 
johnevans said:
Mind, my Old Man introduced my brothers, sisters and I to both City and Puccini et al at an early age, so thanks to him for that.

Many connections between the highbrow trilling and the 'working class opera' we all know and love so much.. I mean, for example, who could forget the flying winger for Bradford City in the early 60s who performed at Valley Parade of an afternoon then sang tenor leads at The Alhambra of an evening, Les O'Pavarotti..? He was nicknamed 'The Bantam of the Opera'*..

(* All right, all right, I'll get me coat..)
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... and don`t slam the fucking door on yer way out. ;)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I find it difficult to believe that they'll write up all the proceedings completely dispassionately then say, "Right, what do we think? Proven or not proven?" for every single instance.

It's more likely they'll have pretty well made their minds up by the end of the hearing in most cases. There may be some debates about levels of proof or the weight of some of the evidence and going back to the evidence presented but there are only 3 substantive charges, plus the issue of non-cooperation so it should be pretty clear to them whether the PL has made its case to a sufficient level of cogency by the end of the hearing.

I've had a second source unconnected to my original source tell me that the broad outcome was clear 6 months ago, even if the formal verdict wasn't. Is the delay due to attempts at damage limitation? Are the departures of Levy & Lewis connected or coincidental?

We'll find out soon hopefully.
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This is only my thinking am probably wrong but you may be right in it might be more to do with damage limitation.

Maybe those sackings that’s what they are for me because they didn’t see it coming is part of what we requested if we are found innocent and instead of us suing them we just asked what we want them to do, then when it’s all released as we will want it, them apologising us partly satisfied happy with what changing going ahead and we have put a line through it!
 
johnevans said:
Mind, my Old Man introduced my brothers, sisters and I to both City and Puccini et al at an early age, so thanks to him for that.
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We never really found the right position for him though. Said he was a midfield maestro or conductor but he was the Italian Rico Lewis. Couldn't conduct the 53 bus.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I find it difficult to believe that they'll write up all the proceedings completely dispassionately then say, "Right, what Is the delay due to attempts at damage limitation? Are the departures of Levy & Lewis connected or coincidental?

We'll find out soon hopefully.
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Was your new thread regarding Khaldoon pulled yesterday because of the title or was the content a wind up as well?
There's nothing showing on Companies House for his 7 City related directorships so presume a wind-up.
 
KS55 said:
I think the panel are just plodding through the drafting process, nobody knows anything except them and nothing is going on in the background. Boring eh? Fertile ground for baseless speculation.
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Corruption, dodgy deals , backhanders etc that's the way of the world my friend.
You're probably a scammers delight
 
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