PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Those statements are not contradictory though. "Knowing" something and "thinking" something are not the same thing.
It is pointless trying to explain. I've fucking tried but clearly people would rather debate the meaning of imminent than listen.

But one more try. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming INCLUDING City and the PL. THOSE PARTIES AND ME thought it would be out by now. NOBODY believes it is reasonable to take this long. EVERYBODY thinks it should therefore be very soon. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming. IS THAT CLEAR?
 
It is pointless trying to explain. I've fucking tried but clearly people would rather debate the meaning of imminent than listen.

But one more try. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming INCLUDING City and the PL. THOSE PARTIES AND ME thought it would be out by now. NOBODY believes it is reasonable to take this long. EVERYBODY thinks it should therefore be very soon. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming. IS THAT CLEAR?
Reading between the lines here, so you're saying we should have our eyes on the next international break? ;-)
 
It is pointless trying to explain. I've fucking tried but clearly people would rather debate the meaning of imminent than listen.

But one more try. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming INCLUDING City and the PL. THOSE PARTIES AND ME thought it would be out by now. NOBODY believes it is reasonable to take this long. EVERYBODY thinks it should therefore be very soon. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming. IS THAT CLEAR?
Sounds imminent to me.
 
Those statements are not contradictory though. "Knowing" something and "thinking" something are not the same thing.

Fair point. I think I've ended up confusing myself!

Point is, if you think something is imminent and it hasn't happened 7 months later, I think it's safe to say that it wasn't imminent and the situation has been misjudged.

Its also safe to say that if you keep saying it's imminent you'll eventually be right, but I've heard that it's due soon now for so long, that I don't care for any predictions and I'll just believe it when it happens.
 
It is pointless trying to explain. I've fucking tried but clearly people would rather debate the meaning of imminent than listen.

But one more try. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming INCLUDING City and the PL. THOSE PARTIES AND ME thought it would be out by now. NOBODY believes it is reasonable to take this long. EVERYBODY thinks it should therefore be very soon. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming. IS THAT CLEAR?
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It is pointless trying to explain. I've fucking tried but clearly people would rather debate the meaning of imminent than listen.

But one more try. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming INCLUDING City and the PL. THOSE PARTIES AND ME thought it would be out by now. NOBODY believes it is reasonable to take this long. EVERYBODY thinks it should therefore be very soon. NOBODY KNOWS when it is coming. IS THAT CLEAR?
Don’t even try mate. Keep asking me when are we getting a right back. I’ve been clear. It’s imminent.
 
Those statements are not contradictory though. "Knowing" something and "thinking" something are not the same thing.

Stefan is an intelligent guy, so he 'thinks' stuff based on what he 'knows'. He bases what he knows on information from good sources. Which is why I suggested that they 'seem' to contradict each other, not that they do contradict each other. It might not stand up in a court of law, I know.
 
This is one of the most wide-ranging and high-profile disciplinary cases in modern sports law. Assessing the evidence takes time and has to be done without time pressure – getting it right matters more than getting it done quickly. Panel members can quite legitimately have different views on certain points, which means you may need to set out majority and minority reasoning, and that inevitably drags the process out. On top of that, with a decision this big almost certainly heading for appeal, it has to be written in a way that can withstand full external judicial scrutiny. So a decision might be imminent — or it might not
 
This is one of the most wide-ranging and high-profile disciplinary cases in modern sports law. Assessing the evidence takes time and has to be done without time pressure – getting it right matters more than getting it done quickly. Panel members can quite legitimately have different views on certain points, which means you may need to set out majority and minority reasoning, and that inevitably drags the process out. On top of that, with a decision this big almost certainly heading for appeal, it has to be written in a way that can withstand full external judicial scrutiny. So a decision might be imminent — or it might not
It's definitely imminent, I just don't know which year it's imminent in.
 
This is one of the most wide-ranging and high-profile disciplinary cases in modern sports law. Assessing the evidence takes time and has to be done without time pressure – getting it right matters more than getting it done quickly. Panel members can quite legitimately have different views on certain points, which means you may need to set out majority and minority reasoning, and that inevitably drags the process out. On top of that, with a decision this big almost certainly heading for appeal, it has to be written in a way that can withstand full external judicial scrutiny. So a decision might be imminent — or it might not
We need to ban the bloody word imminent. Let's just replace it with a more common sense.approach.

We don't know when the verdict is being released.

I know everyone is a bit desperate for anything, especially after a mind boggling 122 thousand plus posts but that is where we are at.
 
This is one of the most wide-ranging and high-profile disciplinary cases in modern sports law. Assessing the evidence takes time and has to be done without time pressure – getting it right matters more than getting it done quickly. Panel members can quite legitimately have different views on certain points, which means you may need to set out majority and minority reasoning, and that inevitably drags the process out. On top of that, with a decision this big almost certainly heading for appeal, it has to be written in a way that can withstand full external judicial scrutiny. So a decision might be imminent — or it might not
Agreed but frankly is there anything in legal terms above a KC?

Apparently they are checking their own legal decisions for errors. They make the law then have difficulty coming to decisions that interpret it. Then charge out hourly rates to do their jigsaw.
Nice work if you can get it.
 
We need to ban the bloody word imminent. Let's just replace it with a more common sense.approach.

We don't know when the verdict is being released.

I know everyone is a bit desperate for anything, especially after a mind boggling 122 thousand plus posts but that is where we are at.

expected kind of means the same as imminent in our context but carries a little less certainty
 
We need to ban the bloody word imminent. Let's just replace it with a more common sense.approach.

We don't know when the verdict is being released.

I know everyone is a bit desperate for anything, especially after a mind boggling 122 thousand plus posts but that is where we are at.
In this context, “imminent” means that the panel’s deliberations are, in practical terms, complete, and that draft decisions have been finalised or are in their final stages, with what remains largely being matters of formality (such as linguistic review, sign-off, and distribution). However, for all we know, the panel may still be deliberating. The media, of course, has to keep creating content, so in this case no news is also news. You can at least conclude that this time there has been no sloppiness around confidentiality, because the reality is that today we know pretty much as little about this case as we did when the charges were first made public.
 
We need to ban the bloody word imminent. Let's just replace it with a more common sense.approach.

We don't know when the verdict is being released.

I know everyone is a bit desperate for anything, especially after a mind boggling 122 thousand plus posts but that is where we are at.
We don't KNOW lots of things. In fact, we almost KNOW nothing at all on every one of the one posts on the entire forum and in billions of interactions each day. It doesn't mean we can't use what we DO know to add to experience to create a meaningful view. You don't have to come on the thread at all before the decision.
 
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