PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[blueste41]

The most telling thing, is the prelude. Why is this wait now an issue? Oh that's right, because City might actually win the title.

The only interesting thing there for me was the revelation that the chelsea 'verdict' was in fact a settlement rather than a unilateral decision/sanction.

The Chelsea settlement wasn't a surprise to me as that is exactly what was reported at the time with the PL quoting “exceptional cooperation throughout the investigation” and " “significant mitigating factors” as the reason.

This was a revelation though:
"They (the judges) will certainly be working on more than one matter at once, and The Lawyer is aware that one of the judges has acted as a barrister in at least one trial since the City hearing wrapped up."

The wait has been an issue for Blues and none Blues for months not just now, for evidence have a quick scan of the last 2000 pages of this thread.

 

[Ho Chi Man City]

City are definately refusing that one.
City have and will only answer direct questions based on a solid question.
Evidence fishing questions will probably get a reply based on a standard set of responses as to the direction of the question. E.g. Clarify what you mean by...
Commercial in confidence clauses mean...

I’m sure I remember Khaldoon stating he regretted taking the UEFA fine for non cooperation as it just made the club look guilty and tarnished the reputation of all involved.

I think he said we would be proved not guilty and then he would make a “direct statement” once the verdict is released.

He also said he felt sorry for our fan base and the staff at City having this hanging over us.

Apparently Khaldoon was instrumental in freezing the ticket prices for next season and after listening to the fans he ensured the ticket transfer system would change.

Top man, take a bow, Khaldoon Al Mubarak.

 

[blueste41]

Thanks for this Peter.

https://www.thelawyer.com/where-is-the-manchester-city-judgment-eight-possible-scenarios/

I see the MUEN has picked it up today and of course is only publishing the bad options. Dropping my pennywort in, I think the most likely options are:
- Split decision.
- Both parties in Settlement Discussions.

And to note the 1st would also probably lead on to the 2nd.
And the 2nd includes redactions associated with any judgement.

Now as City aren't Going to accept any sort of guilt they don't have too, I suspect it could drag on for years more yet.

What's bad about these options?

 

[TonyBookEnd]

A lack of evidence would still lead to a verdict though lol

The complete lack of evidence in my internet browser is still evidence according to my Mrs

 

[remember arthur mann]

Where would the PL be in the last ten + years without City. Boring as fook. Just look at that shite turned out last night at the swamp.

 

[asahartford1]

Where would the PL be in the last ten + years without City. Boring as fook. Just look at that shite turned out last night at the swamp.

I thought brenyford played some good football, poor finishing was the factor in Rags winning.
Most rag phone callers on talksport said they were poor and lucky.

 

[JASR]

In associated/unassociated news… UAE leaving OPEC

 

[Coatigan]

The Chelsea settlement wasn't a surprise to me as that is exactly what was reported at the time with the PL quoting “exceptional cooperation throughout the investigation” and " “significant mitigating factors” as the reason.

This was a revelation though:
"They (the judges) will certainly be working on more than one matter at once, and The Lawyer is aware that one of the judges has acted as a barrister in at least one trial since the City hearing wrapped up."

The wait has been an issue for Blues and none Blues for months not just now, for evidence have a quick scan of the last 2000 pages of this thread.

Re Chelsea, yeah same, but there is still a pretty big difference between the panel giving them a lenient sentence because of 'exceptional cooperation', and them actually agreeing a settlement between them, as this article suggests. The first is the panel taking on themselves to 'reward' their behaviour, but still in effect reaching the decision on their own accord. The second would read as if they reached the decision together and may have influenced one another through the process.

 

[blueste41]

Re Chelsea, yeah same, but there is still a pretty big difference between the panel giving them a lenient sentence because of 'exceptional cooperation', and them actually agreeing a settlement between them, as this article suggests. The first is the panel taking on themselves to 'reward' their behaviour, but still in effect reaching the decision on their own accord. The second would read as if they reached the decision together and may have influenced one another through the process.

There wasn't a panel. You're correct the PL and Chelsea came to an agreement (settlement) without the use of a panel. I'm not sure influenced each other is the correct term but they would have had to have found common ground that was acceptable to both parties, that's exactly what an agreement is.
It's the same way City and the PL concluded the APT case.
There is now way the PSR charges could have reached a settlement because City say they are innocent of all charges whilst the PL insist we are guilty of all of them and as far as we know that is still the positions of both parties.

 

[asahartford1]

There wasn't a panel, the PL and Chelsea came to an agreement (settlement) without the use of a panel.

But also the PL said their "investigation"covered 7 years, it could hardly have left any stone unturned.
The PL wanted it done and dusted without turmoil or rancour.

 

[cityontheup]

Shirley this comes out in the summer during the world cup

 

[FinallyGoodwin]

Shirley this comes out in the summer during the world cup

 

[cityontheup]

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Watch her live performance of “this is my life” on YouTube it’s amazing

 

[blueste41]

Where would the PL be in the last ten + years without City. Boring as fook. Just look at that shite turned out last night at the swamp.

I thought it was a good game.

 

[halfcenturyup]

This was a revelation though:
"They (the judges) will certainly be working on more than one matter at once, and The Lawyer is aware that one of the judges has acted as a barrister in at least one trial since the City hearing wrapped up."

What I thought was interesting about this paragraph is that I had thought Rosen would have had his A-Team of ex-judges on the panel (there are at least four of them to choose from) in view of the nature of the allegations. If The Lawyer knows who one of the three is and he has been a barrister on a different case, that presumably means he is a KC (at least, hopefully), not an ex-judge. Not that I am disparaging KCs but I would think there is a big difference between prosecuting or defending a case and judging one? I hope Rosen chose wisely ....

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

We’re going to beat Villa on the final day of the season, which will clinch the title. Just as captain Bernardo is about to lift the cup, it’s going to get announced on the tannoy that we’ve been docked 115 points. Bernardo is going to pull out a cup of coffee and lift the title anyway, because he’s cool as fuck.

That’s my prediction.

Before lobbing it at whichever of the PL top bods handed it to him…

 

[Keith Moon]

What I thought was interesting about this paragraph is that I had thought Rosen would have had his A-Team of ex-judges on the panel (there are at least four of them to choose from) in view of the nature of the allegations. If The Lawyer knows who one of the three is and he has been a barrister on a different case, that presumably means he is a KC (at least, hopefully, not an ex-judge. Not that I am disparaging KCs but I would think there is a big difference between prosecuting or defending a case and judging one? I hope Rosen chose wisely ....

Several of the Premier League’s A-team of former judges have been tied up on other panels, and given the scale of this case, you’d expect a former Supreme Court judge as chair — Lord Kitchin would be my guess. The barrister mentioned is almost certainly a KC. If The Lawyer knows who it is, it’s odd it hasn’t leaked by now.

 

[manimanc]

I thought it was a good game.

 

[foggy1974]

Shirley this comes out in the summer during the world cup

 

[halfcenturyup]

Several of the Premier League’s A-team of former judges have been tied up on other panels, and given the scale of this case, you’d expect a former Supreme Court judge as chair — Lord Kitchin would be my guess. The barrister mentioned is almost certainly a KC. If The Lawyer knows who it is, it’s odd it hasn’t leaked by now.

Kitchin isn't on the Judicial Panel is he?