PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Seen some complete conjecture that after the PL the FA will take a turn. complete bollocks.

but if they did, i'd be curious as to what set of rules that would be.
do the FA have a different rule book to do us with?
would they be able to play the its a club and you signed up to it card.
would all 92 clubs and beyond have to be in favour of legal action?
would it be a tribunal or an english law court

I don't think that the FA would touch our allegations with a barge pole btw
 
Bez said:
Why do fans of the red cartel and other numpty football fans, pundits etc continue to latch onto madcap theories about City? According to Psychology Today people start to believe lies for the following reasons.
  • The Illusory Truth Effect: When a lie is repeated frequently, our brains become familiar with it, which leads us to mistake that familiarity for truth.
  • Confirmation Bias: We are highly predisposed to accept information that aligns with our pre-existing beliefs, desires, or political worldviews, while discounting contradictory facts.
  • Desire and Comfort: People often temporarily accept distortions because they offer pleasure, comfort, or hope—especially when facing difficult or stressful realities.
  • Social Conformity & Groupthink: Humans are social creatures who rely on the group for survival and belonging. People often accept the lies endorsed by their community or peers to avoid conflict or social exclusion.
  • Truth Bias: Constantly doubting everything is mentally exhausting. Because of this, humans have an innate default to assume others are telling the truth.
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all of these but imo the internet gives a free hit to anyone, say whatever you want with no accountability, just a tiny sop to tiny minds.
 
More reliable that the social media imminent nonsense. The forum going down!
 

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I'd say its the Premier Leagues fault for not setting a timeline. These panel guys have plenty of other commitments as has been discussed previously.
Metal Biker said:
Whoever is on this panel, I trust they will never ever be responsible for another important decision ever again, because the amount of time this has taken, with no updates or explanations given for the length of time, shows how utterly inept, useless and far out of their league they are.

It is pathetic the amount of time it's taken with zero justification for it. It's bordering on scandalous.
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What's the official date for the end of this season? If it's 1st June I suspect there's an announcement on or after that date. Haven't followed this stream so apologies if it's already a known fact
 
These people banging on about points deductions, trophies being taken of City.

Why isnt there the same outcry over Chelsea getting away with far worst then what City are accused of ?

Going by Chelsea punishment if City are guilty its going to be less then a 10 million fine that's all.
 
Metal Biker said:
Whoever is on this panel, I trust they will never ever be responsible for another important decision ever again, because the amount of time this has taken, with no updates or explanations given for the length of time, shows how utterly inept, useless and far out of their league they are.

It is pathetic the amount of time it's taken with zero justification for it. It's bordering on scandalous.
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That's the league's fault, in my opinion, nothing to do with the panel members themselves. There will be all the justification in the world: complex cases are complex, paperwork for scatter gun charges is monumental, and no one asked or paid them to clear their schedules to meet a deadline. Agree heads should roll at the league.
 
Metal Biker said:
Whoever is on this panel, I trust they will never ever be responsible for another important decision ever again, because the amount of time this has taken, with no updates or explanations given for the length of time, shows how utterly inept, useless and far out of their league they are.

It is pathetic the amount of time it's taken with zero justification for it. It's bordering on scandalous.
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It does seem very odd that there has not been any communication on timescales. When you consider all the club and its sponsors have to plan budgets etc months ahead. It is not a criminal trial so there is no constraint on the Judges in this respect. There must have been informal discussions between all the lawyers on timescales.
 
crystal_mais said:
I'd say its the Premier Leagues fault for not setting a timeline. These panel guys have plenty of other commitments as has been discussed previously.
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I blame the PL for referring allegations to a disciplinary panel that never should have been brought before it in the first place.

If they really had evidence alleging fraud, they should have tried to take it through the High Court system and considered sporting sanctions only after the allegations were proven at that level.

It would probably have been quicker as well. Certainly more transparent. And less open to allegations of bias one way or the other. Etcetera etcetera. Just who do the PL think they are?
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
That's the league's fault, in my opinion, nothing to do with the panel members themselves. There will be all the justification in the world: complex cases are complex, paperwork for scatter gun charges is monumental, and no one asked or paid them to clear their schedules to meet a deadline. Agree heads should roll at the league.
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Isn’t that why they are looking at changing having independent panels and bringing in a negotiation and settlement method of resolving disputes. The Premier League were daft enough to think the structures they had in place now would resolve a scenario where they needlessly put together 115 charges. Surely these could have been grouped together into smaller amounts relevant to each point. If they had done that on this occasion the case would have been resolved and probably dismissed a lot quicker. Instead by chucking so much at the wall they hope some of these charges will stick. They didn’t foresee it will take forever for the independent panel to write up their verdict.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It does seem very odd that there has not been any communication on timescales. When you consider all the club and its sponsors have to plan budgets etc months ahead. It is not a criminal trial so there is no constraint on the Judges in this respect. There must have been informal discussions between all the lawyers on timescales.
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Yes. We are led to believe that the panel will co-ordinate the timing of publication with the two parties (international breaks, end of season, before WC, for example) although there is no provision for such collaboration in the PL rulebook, but we aren't to believe that the panel would communicate timetables to the parties or, for that matter, taking it to an extreme, a preliminary informal verdict if one party has suffered a crushing defeat. It's weird, but that's "the law" for you.

How far would the panel consider a responsibility to protect the game, I wonder?
 
"They didn’t foresee it will take forever for the independent panel to write up their verdict"

Maybe they did.

Maybe the intention is for it to last indefinitely and never be resolved. Can the panel take as long as thelokike to reach a conclusion? Is there any time limit? Months? Years? What?
 
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Had some rag at a bbq yesterday giving me that line, highlighted to him that players like Haaland wouldn’t be signing ten year contracts, other players signing, new stands being built and their ceo being implicated if true.

This is what ten years of Pep has done to them, their club is up to its eyeballs in debt. They are hoping the GMCA will bail them out on their stadium, they have to hire staff from City as they have no clue how to run a football club. And their manager is one of Taggert’s lemmings as no one else wanted the job.
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You only need to look at the last line there to see what a state they are still in. While everybody else is signing top managers they're still looking at signing managers nobody has ever heard of or former staff because they are trying to do it in the cheap. No other top club would have taken on Carrick.

Maresca has already achieved more in his time in the position and obviously that's not going to change anytime soon.
 
Elbow beards said:
Fuck me there's some bitter cunts in the hys on the bbc article about pep. Trying to persuade themselves that pep wasn't that great due to 115. The media have done their job, even if we're 100 percent found not guilty, they'll still think we did it. Wankers.
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As I've said all along, that's what they will think regardless of the verdict so there's no point doing anything other than ignoring them completely.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Yes. We are led to believe that the panel will co-ordinate the timing of publication with the two parties (international breaks, end of season, before WC, for example) although there is no provision for such collaboration in the PL rulebook, but we aren't to believe that the panel would communicate timetables to the parties or, for that matter, taking it to an extreme, a preliminary informal verdict if one party has suffered a crushing defeat. It's weird, but that's "the law" for you.

How far would the panel consider a responsibility to protect the game, I wonder?
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It’s a very abnormal situation. I was directly involved in two very sensitive arbitration hearings. They were also very high profile. And all parties were kept in the loop on timescales all the way through. This is a slightly different sort of hearing but the PL should have set the parameters at the beginning. Masters commissioned the Judges but within days he was saying it’s all out of my hands now. He’s a fucking idiot.
 
I hope there is a verdict this summer. I can't understand how it has gone on for so long. It might be complex, with a lot of information submitted but it's not beyond the panel's experience and capabilities to make a decision on this. You'd hope that things were settled this summer so there's a clean slate going into the new season.

I do laugh at how everyone believes we are guilty. It's usually based on people reading the hacked emails and assuming Sheikh Mansour ploughed cash into the club. It ignores the fact that could have been another "HH". It ignores the fact UEFA assumed the same and CAS overruled them. It ignores the sheer principle that the rules were a nonsense anyway, and that when he failed to comply with UEFA's rules we were punished and took it on the chin. If we really wanted to commit fraud to bypass rules, we did a shit job of it!

The summer feels a logical time, but that's been said in previous breaks so if it doesn't land I really don't know when it might. I did enjoy Stefan doing his best to take the TS cash by suggesting it would be soon/early June/some point in June/this summer/this decade.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It’s a very abnormal situation. I was directly involved in two very sensitive arbitration hearings. They were also very high profile. And all parties were kept in the loop on timescales all the way through. This is a slightly different sort of hearing but the PL should have set the parameters at the beginning. Masters commissioned the Judges but within days he was saying it’s all out of my hands now. He’s a fucking idiot.
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But much more seriously, a fucking corrupt idiot working on behalf of the US owned cabal.
 
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