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Heard Otamendi is good but I think he'll disrupt our squad. Kompany seems to be back on form, Mangala will build on these performances with the confidence of starting regularly while Denayer will be competing for playing time and Demichelis is still quality (our best CB last season). Not sure why we need Otamendi to make Mangala lose confidence and give Denayer even less chance of playing time.
 
Pam said:
A gem from the Rag Caf ...

Who do I blame for this?

UEFA/Platini/whoever for being too lenient?
Otamendi for being a glory-hunting cock?
Woodward for not trying?
LVG for not wanting?
Redcafe transfer thread for getting my hopes up?
FM2013 for even alerting me to this guy?

Actually I'm going to vent it all towards Johnny Evans
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Someone replied to the "LVG for not wanting" with........"if LVG wanted him,he would be here by now"
 
aguerooo93 said:
Heard Otamendi is good but I think he'll disrupt our squad. Kompany seems to be back on form, Mangala will build on these performances with the confidence of starting regularly while Denayer will be competing for playing time and Demichelis is still quality (our best CB last season). Not sure why we need Otamendi to make Mangala lose confidence and give Denayer even less chance of playing time.
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We all have an opinion mate, only thing I agree with that post is the full stop.
 
Last night de Bruyne was called most of the names under the sun and Txiki should have been sacked before anyone realised that we had actually (not) witnessed anything other than a stunt engineered by a German rag. Today it seems that Otamendi is indeed on his way to joining City and already the boys are up in arms on behalf of young Jason Denayer. Otamendi hasn't yet signed and we don't know what the club's plans for Jason are but the guardians of the club's conscience know for a fact that we never do anything right! We never put our faith in youth, we always go after the wrong players, we always take an age to clinch the deals and always pay too much for them! Only at winning trophies are we any good!

Well, the Sheikh actually invested £200 million in an academy and training centre but was very careful not to call it "the Bluemoon youth employment scheme" and he never promised that graduation from it would carry a certificate guaranteeing 20 appearances in your first season, or in any other. He actually leaves decisions on squad and team selection to the manager and coaching staff. So maybe we should wait until Otamendi actually arrives and we see what the future holds for Jason before shooting off our mouths - Manuel and his staff are far more well qualified than anyone on here.
 
the originalkippaxman said:
If you knew anything about City and I mean anything you would know that we tried all we could to keep him but he left on a free which them became £8.5M (after add ons) after a tribunal. Nothing to do with City glowing lights and big pay packet in London. That didn't exactly work well for him did it.
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No it didn't Mate, blessing in disguise, for us in the long run. Well rid.

Even sweeter as it's the dippers who are now stuck with his, seemingly never ending, medical bills.
 
aguerooo93 said:
Heard Otamendi is good but I think he'll disrupt our squad. Kompany seems to be back on form, Mangala will build on these performances with the confidence of starting regularly while Denayer will be competing for playing time and Demichelis is still quality (our best CB last season). Not sure why we need Otamendi to make Mangala lose confidence and give Denayer even less chance of playing time.
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don't understand this idea of mangala losing confidence?

the club pulled out of the deal to let mangala go due to his performances? now this should give him a whole load of confidence to see that the club believes in him and has healthy competition in otamendi joining us. All footballers know that if they play shite or make mistakes they may get dropped for a period (hart, kompany) to try and regain their form and see what they're up against. Every player needs competition for their place - that's football.

As for denayer, I hope he goes out on loan or a PL or championship club and plays like he did with celtic as we and the club can gauge what level he is at before throwing him in our side. Every player will get their chance and i'm pretty sure the club would of told him that hence the 5year contract (i know the agent was quoted earlier) but it's a near enough formality that if you have kompany, mangala, demichelis and otamendi infront of you - you have to work for it and I know he will whether with us or a loan at another club which would help his development ready for next season when demi goes to river plate/mls and we are back with our usual 4CB's
 
Monkfish said:
I would like to think Mangala more confidence in himself than many of you give him credit for
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His walk off at half time on Sunday, whilst protecting Ferrnandinho would suggest he's a confident young man.
 
We are signing one of the best central defenders in Europe, a player who can finally address what has been a problem position in recent times and go a long way to helping us regain the title, and people are turning on the club because some 20 year old kid with no relevant experience against top level opposition might spit his dummy out?!

If Virgil Van Dijk's sidekick isn't happy with having to wait and earn his right to a first team place at one of the biggest clubs in Europe, then he can do one.

I like Denayer as a footballer, but as a central defender the jury is still out, and I'd rather he make the inevitable rookie errors elsewhere. We lost the league by 8 points last year, points that we dropped (and more) due to individual defensive errors from Kompany, Mangala and Demichelis. While they were floundering, Otamendi was tackling everything that moved in the Spanish league, without exception. Messi, Suarez, Bale, Ronaldo and Neymar all found him an unbeatable barrier.

The coaching staff have had over a month to analyse our defensive options, and have concluded that they're not adequate to win back the title and progress in Europe.

Our business this summer has been impeccable. Every department has been strengthened and for this Txiki deserves a lot of credit.

I know a lot of fans would have preferred us to stick Denayer in the team and waste £100m on Pogba, but luckily those that matter at the club live in the real world and understand what is required for us to take the next step towards establishing ourselves as an elite club.
 
SWP's back said:
You're well within your rights to tell me to fuck off but I'd just repeat it back. I've got match going mates like you are we have right barnies going to and from games. He's never happy. If we signed Messi, he'd complain it would hold Lopes back.

If Denayer is half the player you and he thinks he is, then a second loan this season is still far bettere for his prospects than moving permanently to the Spurs of this world instead of signing that five year contract.

The world just seems so impatient these days. CB for hopefully one of the top four sides in Europe at 20 is neigh on unheard of and to be honest, even without Otamendi, he's best having a year on loan at Everton or similar this year than making 20 starts for City. His time will come.
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I'd be fine with him making 20 starts for City tbh. Even if it's not at cb..That's what they did with Lakey, fullback etc.

It's the idea of him getting Dedryked that concerns me. He needs Demichelis to go if he's going to get even sniff imo though.
 
Pam said:
A gem from the Rag Caf ...

Who do I blame for this?

UEFA/Platini/whoever for being too lenient?
Otamendi for being a glory-hunting cock?
Woodward for not trying?
LVG for not wanting?
Redcafe transfer thread for getting my hopes up?
FM2013 for even alerting me to this guy?

Actually I'm going to vent it all towards Johnny Evans
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SPIDERBOY said:
Someone replied to the "LVG for not wanting" with........"if LVG wanted him,he would be here by now"
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Haha, deluded butthurt rags are are just the best.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Last night de Bruyne was called most of the names under the sun and Txiki should have been sacked before anyone realised that we had actually (not) witnessed anything other than a stunt engineered by a German rag. Today it seems that Otamendi is indeed on his way to joining City and already the boys are up in arms on behalf of young Jason Denayer. Otamendi hasn't yet signed and we don't know what the club's plans for Jason are but the guardians of the club's conscience know for a fact that we never do anything right! We never put our faith in youth, we always go after the wrong players, we always take an age to clinch the deals and always pay too much for them! Only at winning trophies are we any good!

Well, the Sheikh actually invested £200 million in an academy and training centre but was very careful not to call it "the Bluemoon youth employment scheme" and he never promised that graduation from it would carry a certificate guaranteeing 20 appearances in your first season, or in any other. He actually leaves decisions on squad and team selection to the manager and coaching staff. So maybe we should wait until Otamendi actually arrives and we see what the future holds for Jason before shooting off our mouths - Manuel and his staff are far more well qualified than anyone on here.
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Yep. I agree, spot on. Although the De Bruyne thing was hysterical ( in all meanings)
 
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