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FantasyIreland said:
If only we could poach him,Stones and Barkley or better still swap.......for Bony,Mangala and Nasri
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I don't quite understand your logic here.

It's like saying "if we could swap Bony for Messi..."

Why would Everton accept Nasri, Bony and Mangala as payment for what is essentially £150m+ worth of talent?

KCblue said:
Would Bony + 20m do it?
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Absolutely not.

pudge said:
If you can convince Lukaku to be second choice and a substitute and get Everton to not ask for the Earth's weight in gold then by all means have a go at it. I'll chip in 20p.
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This, basically.

You aren't going to get Lukaku for less than £50m. You aren't going to get him in January at all. Willing to pay £50m+ and wait until summer? It's possible. If not, it won't happen.
 
FantasyIreland said:
If only we could poach him,Stones and Barkley or better still swap.......for Bony,Mangala and Nasri
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Not sure I would really want any of them but it is funny how Everton have better options than Manyoo - none of their players apart from maybe their keeper would get near our squad
 
No thanks.

Not into signing a player who is just going through a good vein of form. Watching Everton over the last 18 months or so far too often Lukaku hasn't been able to trap a bag of cement, and shown terrible awareness and link up play. Everton fans getting on his back too. He's garbage for Belgium as well.

On the subject of Everton players, I was saying last season that we should sign Barkley because his stock was quite low but he had shown clear class. Could have got him for a decent price. Barkley has the potential to be a top player. I don't see an elite player in Lukaku and yet they'd want an elite price.
 
efcblue said:
I don't quite understand your logic here.

It's like saying "if we could swap Bony for Messi..."

Why would Everton accept Nasri, Bony and Mangala as payment for what is essentially £150m+ worth of talent?



Absolutely not.



This, basically.

You aren't going to get Lukaku for less than £50m. You aren't going to get him in January at all. Willing to pay £50m+ and wait until summer? It's possible. If not, it won't happen.
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£150m worth of talent? Please tell me you're pissed.
 
efcblue said:
Stones = 50m+
Lukaku = 50m+
Barkley = 50m+

Now I don't mind you mancs, I'm sure you can do basic math. Add that up and you get...?
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I'm just in absolute shock at how you've come to the conclusion that they're individually worth £50m each despite not performing close to a £50m player.

There's nobody on earth would would pay £50m for each.
 
City_Sean said:
I'm just in absolute shock at how you've come to the conclusion that they're individually worth £50m each despite not performing close to a £50m player.

There's nobody on earth would would pay £50m for each.
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I'm in absolute shock that you think a single one of those three will go for less than fifty million with Everton being the sellers.

We rejected £38m for Stones. After the Euro's, he's going to be 50m+. No question.

We bought Lukaku for nearly 30m. For the player he's becoming, do you really see him going for less than 50m?

Barkley is the only one I can see not going for that sum of money and that's because I can't see him leaving at all for a while.
 
efcblue said:
Stones = 50m+
Lukaku = 50m+
Barkley = 50m+

Now I don't mind you mancs, I'm sure you can do basic math. Add that up and you get...?
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- Lukaku is scoring at the same rate he did at West Brom(Goals per minute) so how has his value almost/more than doubled?
- Stones is a decent CB in an average defence, though has he been £40mil+ better than £9.5mil Funes Mori for you?...You won't get £50mil+ for him but if you do it'll be an incredible bit of business.
- And Ross Barkleys are a dime a dozen in foreign leagues, just a product of the English hype train.
 
01cravend said:
- Lukaku is scoring at the same rate he did at West Brom(Goals per minute) so how has his value almost/more than doubled?
- Stones is a decent CB in an average defence, though has he been £40mil+ better than £9.5mil Funes Mori for you?...You won't get £50mil+ for him but if you do it'll be an incredible bit of business.
- And Ross Barkleys are a dime a dozen in foreign leagues, just a product of the English hype train.
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I don't think you understand.

This isn't about your valuations of the players. It's about how much a buying club will have to pay Everton to acquire those players if they were to leave. Would I value Martial at £36m? Mangala at £32m? Absolutely not. But that's what United and you had to pay, all factors considered. £50m+ is what a buying club will end up paying for Stones, Lukaku or Barkley, all factors considered.
 
efcblue said:
I don't think you understand.

This isn't about your valuations of the players. It's about how much a buying club will have to pay Everton to acquire those players if they were to leave. Would I value Martial at £36m? Mangala at £32m? Absolutely not. But that's what United and you had to pay, all factors considered. £50m+ is what a buying club will end up paying for Stones, Lukaku or Barkley, all factors considered.
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hello bill kenwright
 
With the new TV deal and the amount of money even the midtable sides are going to be getting, I'd be amazed if any of those players went for less than £40m, £50m isn't a stretch at all (except for Barkley). There is just no reason for Everton to sell for less than that, they will have an absolute shit load of cash anyway and no matter how much money they have they won't be able to buy a similar replacement. £50m might get you a De Bruyne from Germany, but a De Bruyne caliber player won't want to go to a midtable team like Everton, even if they can afford it. The money becomes a bit pointless as you can't really do much with it (like Liverpool and Spurs with the Suarez/Bale money). It's easier to keep hold of the players. The only reason Everton would sell any of them is because the player forces them to and even then they would make people pay through the nose. The value in the Premier League is only going to get worse and worse as the teams get more and more TV money.
 
BigOscar said:
With the new TV deal and the amount of money even the midtable sides are going to be getting, I'd be amazed if any of those players went for less than £40m, £50m isn't a stretch at all (except for Barkley). There is just no reason for Everton to sell for less than that, they will have an absolute shit load of cash anyway and no matter how much money they have they won't be able to buy a similar replacement. £50m might get you a De Bruyne from Germany, but a De Bruyne caliber player won't want to go to a midtable team like Everton, even if they can afford it. The money becomes a bit pointless as you can't really do much with it (like Liverpool and Spurs with the Suarez/Bale money). It's easier to keep hold of the players. The only reason Everton would sell any of them is because the player forces them to and even then they would make people pay through the nose. The value in the Premier League is only going to get worse and worse as the teams get more and more TV money.
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This is absolutely right.

Hope we don't go in for Lukaku, he will be worse than Bony. He's ball control is below average, and his passing is even worse.
 
Just repeating what has already been said; good player, potential to be great, not for us and especially not for what he'd cost.
 
efcblue said:
Stones = 50m+
Lukaku = 50m+
Barkley = 50m+

Now I don't mind you mancs, I'm sure you can do basic math. Add that up and you get...?
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This guy might go for £50m+ but only because strikers carry a premium, but Stokes will go for a little, and I mean little, more than what CFC were offering. Barkers needs to develop a bit more to carry a tag of £50m. (I've just been told this by my Evertonian renegade offspring!)
 
Anyone thinks Lukaku would be a good fit for City?
His stats in the prem are quite insane, defo for such a young player, but the question has always been, is he good enough technically?
I used to be a non-believer, but I get the impression he's improved a lot this season. Mind you have only seen two live games of Everton so far this season ...
Anyway I could see him in a partnership with Agüero up front, never liked him as a lone striker. Partnership with Kone now I think is one of the main reasons why he's particularly flourishing this year...
But could it work at City?
 
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