Club Badge (merged)

do you not think it would look too bare without the rose??

I would have preferred the rivers in red and gold - like our old badge, and the manchester crest, and drop the rose.
However it has really grown on me... think the main problems was the reveal of the badge on a white background... pop it on sky blue and it looks a treat. Still needs F.C. adding though.
 
I have just seen the badge in monochrome orange on our sipposed 3rd kit for 16/17 wjich will be orange , purple and white. I'm on my blower so cannot post pic. Footyheadlines.com
 
That's what Gary James posted awhile back. Tbh I always thought it represented the Ship Canal but it actually predates it. The ship and rivers have appeared on all City's badges from the '30s onwards. None of the other stuff has.
Someone posted an image of Manchester's CoA - from 1842 I think it was - a mere 50 pages or so ago. I was looking at it and noticed two things about the ship as it appears on the 1842 COA.

It has gun ports. After five minutes googling I determined that as a bona fide expert my opinion was a fact and the ship was something along the lines of an armed merchantman, "East India Company" or variations thereof was a popular return on image searches. I did allow myself to be lead into my search terms by what I had always been told (and had no reason not to accept) that the ship was some sort of clipper, however in noticing the gunports my first thought had actually been "aha! it's a frigate", not "Oh, so it is a clipper." The flag off the stern of the 1842 CoA ship looks like the Cross of St. George, which would be odd; perhaps it is a White Ensign which was too small for the artist (Herald?) to include the Union Flag within, but whatever it is, it is not a Red Ensign. So, on the basis of gun ports and an apparent White Ensign I reckon it is a Royal Navy frigate.

Expert analysis there.

Is there a written description in the granting of the CoA (by the College of Heralds is it?) of the ship?
 
This one?

The Manchester coat of arms:
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From 1842: http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/con.../110209_manchester_coat_of_arms_feature.shtml and yes those sails are shaded.

I'd say that is the cross of Saint George, after all there may be debate about whether we're still in Lanc's (I say yes) but no one is going to argue whether we're in England are they?
 
Iv been trying to steer clear of the new badge in the hope that my initial view was one of shock and just not wanting the change with the hope that the new badge will grow on me..

Unfortunately it has not, and the more I look at it the more I see wrong with it.
I have looked without bias trying to take the good things from it but I'm struggling , It just doesn't sit right .

It has probably all been said here before but what stands out to me is - Initially
the CITY being straight and not curved like the rest of the wording
The shield being outside the rounding - and maybe if it protruded out the same at the bottom as it dose on the sides wouldn't look as bad.
The rivers don't seem to be the same size ( could be my eyes ) and maybe could be better positioned
The ship seems to be out of place a little , not quite central - again could by my eyes
That god dam splash of red there for no reason what so ever, may have well used a star or 3

I seriously can't believe that somebody has been paid for putting this together, and that somebody has said "yes that's the one "

Thear have been some really great mock ups done on here by posters that may not have been my first choice but I would have took over this peace of garbage any-day.

The only thing I acutely like about it is it's round and the ship is quite nice.

This is what you get when you try to please everyone I guess.

I personally don't think it will grow on me as the eagle did after a while on the last change, as it looks quite amateurish , even childish , I just hope I'm around to see this fixed when the young guys who have grew up with the eagle get old enough to have there voices herd and want a change away from two old relics haphazardly thrown together in a attempt to please the old farts who wanted the change back to the old badge but couldn't decide which one to change to.

And if there clever enough it won't be long - marketing wise 3 new kits every change -(just dawn on me we get 3 new kits per year now anyway don't we - fkme when did that become the acceptable norm)

I'd love for anybody to point out the good things about it to give me something to acutely like about it. Just a little thing or two to give me some hope that it may be a good badge and that I'm missing the whole point ... Maybe it's like a Picasso the shiter it looked the better it acutely is..
 
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Iv been trying to steer clear of the new badge in the hope that my initial view was one of shock and just not wanting the change with the hope that the new badge will grow on me..

Unfortunately it has not, and the more I look at it the more I see wrong with it.
I have looked without bias trying to take the good things from it but I'm struggling , It just doesn't sit right .

It has probably all been said here before but what stands out to me is - Initially
the CITY being straight and not curved like the rest of the wording
The shield being outside the rounding - and maybe if it protruded out the same at the bottom as it dose on the sides wouldn't look as bad.
The rivers don't seem to be the same size ( could be my eyes ) and maybe could be better positioned
The ship seems to be out of place a little , not quite central - again could by my eyes
That god dam splash of red there for no reason what so ever, may have well used a star or 3

I seriously can't believe that somebody has been paid for putting this together, and that somebody has said "yes that's the one "

Thear have been some really great mock ups done on here by posters that may not have been my first choice but I would have took over this peace of garbage any-day.

The only thing I acutely like about it is it's round and the ship is quite nice.

This is what you get when you try to please everyone I guess.

I personally don't think it will grow on me as the eagle did after a while on the last change, as it looks quite amateurish , even childish , I just hope I'm around to see this fixed when the young guys who have grew up with the eagle get old enough to have there voices herd and want a change away from two old relics haphazardly thrown together in a attempt to please the old farts who wanted the change back to the old badge but couldn't decide which one to change to.

And if there clever enough it won't be long - marketing wise 3 new kits every change -(just dawn on me we get 3 new kits per year now anyway don't we - fkme when did that become the acceptable norm)

I'd love for anybody to point out the good things about it to give me something to acutely like about it. Just a little thing or two to give me some hope that it may be a good badge and that I'm missing the whole point ... Maybe it's like a Picasso the shiter it looked the better it acutely is..

You are right, the 'rivers' are different widths.

It grows on you if you ignore the 18 and 94 and the red rose.
 
Looks better with a colour in the background doesn't it? Still not a big fan though.

(What's the apostrophe doing after till though? It's either 'til or till.)
Oops sorry. Made a mistake there. Wasn't sure either way. But the rest of em I decided to take the text off so it's just the badge and the players.
 

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