Media bias against City

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franksinatra said:
If you are talking about an historical post I cannot remember it. Yes I will look forward to the context and I can only presume if you have broken down, when we have received penalties you have done the same for our rivals or there would be no context or direct comparison to benchmark against. Like you say it is all about the context.
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You must think I've loads of time on my hands. I will take the time to demonstrate the very few times that we get 'game changing' penalties that 'should' (but probably won't) stop you posting your often quoted stat relating to the amount of penalties we have been awarded. If you want to produce stats that show that our rivals have similarly limited penalties awarded that materially affect a result in the manner that happened this weekend for both the rags and spurs then be my guest. I would be genuinely interested to see the comparators and that would really get to the nub of the issue. My only objective is to ensure that you can't quote the same penalty stat in relation to mcfc as some sort of counter argument the next time we get a similar run of disgraceful penalty decisions not given as it will be proven that the majority of those penalties offered us no significant benefit.

Stats aside, you're total disregard of the last 5 non awarded penalties is staggering. The fact you continue to pedal the same penalty stat on every occasion where we get these disgraceful non decisions is a real head scratcher.
 
franksinatra said:
The problem with that is penalties not given is completely subjective. Even on Match of the Day, with the benefit of replays, agreement is not always reached on whether it was a penalty or not. Over the last 6 years city have received the most (with Chelsea) and conceded the less in comparison to our rivals Utd, Chelsea, Pool, Arsenal.

Interestingly City have a + 27 comparing for and against. Arsenal in comparison have a -1. A difference of 28 goals over 6 seasons.
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I was wondering who would put us right.
 
franksinatra said:
The problem with that is penalties not given is completely subjective. Even on Match of the Day, with the benefit of replays, agreement is not always reached on whether it was a penalty or not. Over the last 6 years city have received the most (with Chelsea) and conceded the less in comparison to our rivals Utd, Chelsea, Pool, Arsenal.

Interestingly City have a + 27 comparing for and against. Arsenal in comparison have a -1. A difference of 28 goals over 6 seasons.
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How many are given fr/against is not a great measure of ref quality, unless you believe that they know or take it into account. IF a team has 40 shots punched off the goalline, there's no argument about there being 40 penalties.

A far better scale is how many are given wrongly, both for and against. That is far more instructive of ref quality (you could even try to grade them as dead certs and iffy if you were brave).
 
Whilst half the posters seem to be arguing about penalties (in a media bias thread ?) I was bored the other night so put on the $ky recording of the Derby at our place last season. 3 nailed on, stonewall penalties that even the commentator said were penalties. Not one was given and if you remember Bogrush clattered Aguero and then screamed abuse 3" from the back of his head whilst the referee looked on.
 
Blue Mooner said:
You must think I've loads of time on my hands. I will take the time to demonstrate the very few times that we get 'game changing' penalties that 'should' (but probably won't) stop you posting your often quoted stat relating to the amount of penalties we have been awarded. If you want to produce stats that show that our rivals have similarly limited penalties awarded that materially affect a result in the manner that happened this weekend for both the rags and spurs then be my guest. I would be genuinely interested to see the comparators and that would really get to the nub of the issue. My only objective is to ensure that you can't quote the same penalty stat in relation to mcfc as some sort of counter argument the next time we get a similar run of disgraceful penalty decisions not given as it will be proven that the majority of those penalties offered us no significant benefit.

Stats aside, you're total disregard of the last 5 non awarded penalties is staggering. The fact you continue to pedal the same penalty stat on every occasion where we get these disgraceful non decisions is a real head scratcher.
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I asked you on another thread this question which you ignored so i'll try again

Do you think refs are instructed from the powers above to referee city matches dif to other clubs?
 
The blue phantom said:
Do you think refs are instructed from the powers above to referee city matches dif to other clubs?
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I do, yes.

We are seen as fair game for opposing teams and players by refs. Our players are constantly fouled and hacked down with refs grudgingly giving a free kick at times whilst waving it on if they can. Contrast that to the sheer amount of times we are penalised and booked for the slightest contact. How many times do we dominate possession yet end up with more bookings and more fouls against?

Look at the way our players are treated under contact in the box in contrast to others? Fuck me even the tv commentators are at it with the narrative of it not being enough to go down when its Kun or Sterling yet any other player and he was being clever there and if you feel contact you have to go down, its a penalty line when its any one else.

Where there is gambling and huge amounts of money at stake, there will always be cheating and corruption and to suggest the PL is immune is frankly ridiculous and heads in the sand stuff.
 
Explain how Madley (who I think is one of the worse refs in the league) cannot give a pen against Navas when seen clearly yet gives one for Spurs yesterday when his view was hidden. He received no help from the liner on either occasion. He is either a shit ref, corrupt, a rag or a combination of all three.
 
blueinsa said:
I do, yes.

We are seen as fair game for opposing teams and players by refs. Our players are constantly fouled and hacked down with refs grudgingly giving a free kick at times whilst waving it on if they can. Contrast that to the sheer amount of times we are penalised and booked for the slightest contact. How many times do we dominate possession yet end up with more bookings and more fouls against?

Look at the way our players are treated under contact in the box in contrast to others? Fuck me even the tv commentators are at it with the narrative of it not being enough to go down when its Kun or Sterling yet any other player and he was being clever there and if you feel contact you have to go down, its a penalty line when its any one else.

Where there is gambling and huge amounts of money at stake, there will always be cheating and corruption and to suggest the PL is immune is frankly ridiculous and heads in the sand stuff.
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What have the powers that be got to gain by keeping us down?

I believe some of the shambolic and one sided refereeing is caused by other factors which are pertinent to this thread.
 
Rolee said:
What have the powers that be got to gain by keeping us down?
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The PL is a world wide multi £Billion business reliant on huge global tv audiences, many of whom are sadly tuning in to see their beloved rags, arse and chavs win.

Thats the reality and its the same reason we have a media bias in this country. They sell papers and they sell tv rights.

Those sides winning means money is being made.

The distaste for us over the last few years from everyone tells you all you need to know as the biggest threat we are to them all is in their pockets.
 
blueinsa said:
I do, yes.

We are seen as fair game for opposing teams and players by refs. Our players are constantly fouled and hacked down with refs grudgingly giving a free kick at times whilst waving it on if they can. Contrast that to the sheer amount of times we are penalised and booked for the slightest contact. How many times do we dominate possession yet end up with more bookings and more fouls against?

Look at the way our players are treated under contact in the box in contrast to others? Fuck me even the tv commentators are at it with the narrative of it not being enough to go down when its Kun or Sterling yet any other player and he was being clever there and if you feel contact you have to go down, its a penalty line when its any one else.

Where there is gambling and huge amounts of money at stake, there will always be cheating and corruption and to suggest the PL is immune is frankly ridiculous and heads in the sand stuff.
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Well if folk do think its organised corruption to stop us this would be up there with the fifa scandal, the biggest and most watched football league in the world earning billions of pounds is out to halt Manchester city, i'm amazed one of those refs on £50'000 a year hasnt blown the whistle and earned a fortune.
 
The blue phantom said:
Well if folk do think its organised corruption to stop us this would be up there with the fifa scandal, the biggest and most watched football league in the world earning billions of pounds is out to halt Manchester city, i'm amazed one of those refs on £50'000 a year hasnt come out and blown the whistle and earned a fortune.
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Plenty of refs have disappeared over night and before their time was up over the last few years.

I wonder why??

Poll is on record as saying you gave Utd the decisions because you knew if you didn't, they would influence the league and the refs and you didn't get their games again.

If thats not cheating then i dont know what is.

Scudamore is also on record as saying a declining Utd are bad for business. They have had the rub of the green for years and they will get it again. Last minute penalty to save further embarrassment yet again against Sheffield Utd anyone?
 
The blue phantom said:
Well if folk do think its organised corruption to stop us this would be up there with the fifa scandal, the biggest and most watched football league in the world earning billions of pounds is out to halt Manchester city, i'm amazed one of those refs on £50'000 a year hasnt blown the whistle and earned a fortune.
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Not saying it is or isn't happening here but it happened in Italy not long ago and I think you're forgetting that bad things happen to people who fuck over those who bribed them in the first place.

Just how long did it take for anything to be done about Blatter and Platini once it was made clear that all those dodgy deals had taken place? These people can afford decent lawyers and it would destroy the life of any whistleblower with the guts to come forward.

There's definitely corruption within British football as there's too much money to be made for it to be a clean business but I don't think we're being specifically targeted by referees. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if I was proven wrong.
 
The blue phantom said:
Well if folk do think its organised corruption to stop us this would be up there with the fifa scandal, the biggest and most watched football league in the world earning billions of pounds is out to halt Manchester city, i'm amazed one of those refs on £50'000 a year hasnt blown the whistle and earned a fortune.
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If I was a ref I'd give them nothing but I'm probably in the minority & fortunately there are more fans of altrincham than the rags in the EPL.
 
blueinsa said:
Plenty of refs have disappeared over night and before their time was up over the last few years.

I wonder why??

Poll is on record as saying you gave Utd the decisions because you knew if you didn't, they would influence the league and the refs and you didn't get their games again.

If thats not cheating then i dont know what is.

Scudamore is also on record as saying a declining Utd are bad for business. They have had the rub of the green for years and they will get it again. Last minute penalty to save further embarrassment yet again against Sheffield Utd anyone?
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Not unless they paid the defender to dive in like a loon.

But in general I know what you're saying!
 
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