West Ham post game....

[Hart of the Matter]

But, Arsenal showing they are the stuff off Champions (yet if they lose today they are below us) and Spurs putting on the style ( yet below us) etc
My frustration is, like every one, I am struggling to remember when we last played really well. No consecutive wins in eons and no sign of change. We are rigid in our style and approach. Sideways, slow, slow, slower and slow. No established combinations of players in defence or midfield. No sense of our best formation and no consensus of our starting eleven. It feels the solutions are not emerging. We could still win four but do we look like contenders in any?
We gifted West Ham 2 goals. Came away with a point. We are rarely outplayed (Liverpool, Stoke?) but rarely outplay others. Every game is scrappy at best. Even the big wins (Newcastle). Tough decisions on Yaya and our attacking midfield combination need to be made and stuck with. I am almost discounting this season now.... Limbo land waiting for us to pep up in the summer. Changing of the guard and old lags moving on.

 

[richards30]

One league away win since September? Not won 2 league games in a row since October I believe? With our squad that is absolute dogshit!

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

What a great post. Usually on here if you say anything negative you are called a rag. But people are happy with a point at west ham now after all that investment. I suppose the point with villa was a good one if we in the league by a point.arent we sick of the old "that's typical city" routine now we have invested in the players can't we expect more, expect to win well and even dominate the league. Otherwise don't spend mega and bring young ones thru like Spurs and win by team effort and will to win. Like you said we are still in four comps but not looking threatening and could end up with nothing which would be criminal with this squad.

Having seen several of your posts, it's not hard to understand why

 

[waspish]

come on then why do you think pep sold him then...I never said it didn't benefit us!!!, What I meant is the high intensity game that pep plays does not fit Yaya's game style

Yaya was on 30k a week and if I remember not long left on his contract plus playing him out of position and he wasn't a regular so when city offered him 200k a week it turned his head.

 

[Wanchope n me Dickov]

1 point not so bad. I see Noel was there with that knob Russell Brand.

 

[proachy]

I think he meant the way raga feel like they are stuck with turtle face.

At least I hope that's what he meant.

That's what I meant yes. So many rags saying sack turtle, which is so funny, but to be calling for Manuels head at the moment sounds so raggish.

 

[the_game_161]

As long as we don't lose ground on Arsenal it's not a terrible weekend

 

[city saint]

I still think we look much better with navas and sterling in the team.all our best performances seem to be when they start.

 

[stonerblue]

No surprise that this thread is twice as long as the ones we have when we win. Seems people would rather moan than congratulate the team.
A tough away game where the hosts haven't been beaten in 5 months was never gonna be a piece of piss so why expect us to roll them over?
We came from behind twice and then tried to win the game which to me shows we have the desire and bottle required to get something out of games like yesterdays, and a bit more besides.
Three points off top spot and all still to play for seems far from the 'disaster' many of our less positive members are whining about.

 

[Steve68]

As long as we don't lose ground on Arsenal it's not a terrible weekend

The likelihood is we will though.

The disappointment for me is that this performance was not a one-off disappointment or magnificent opponent display. It was mundanely predictable and unsurprising. The line up was predictably bad and the players performed with the same lack of intensity as we have become accustomed to seeing.

We keep making teams look and let them play better than they are and to me that points to some systemic problem.

If I had to pick just one thing it's that Aguero is isolated. He needs a partner and for me that is Nacho. The knock on effect of that is we simply cannot afford the immobile Yaya in a midfield two. In a midfield three, sure. But not in a 442 or any variant.

As for our defensive set up ....

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I still think we look much better with navas and sterling in the team.all our best performances seem to be when they start.

I personally thought Navas added nothing first half yesterday after the first 10 mins. He is better as a sub for me. Sterling struggles to pick up the pace of the game when he comes on so he would start for me over Navas.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

As long as we don't lose ground on Arsenal it's not a terrible weekend

We should be pulling away from Arsenal not hoping to keep up with them.

 

[prof-taf]

The spine of the team is broken and there is no leadership. To be still in contention with the loss of form yaya, and kompany being out Is a credit to the players and MP. On top of that many injuries to silva and Auguero.
hopefully a solution to yaya and his role and kompany back will steady the ship, if it doesn't, hey ho that's life

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Watching MOTD and wtf was that defending for their second? School boy stuff. But we deserved the point overall.

Overall I thought West Ham slightly edged it on the play but a draw was a fair result. 16 attempts, only 3 on target. We have to be getting more attempts on target. It's becoming a recurring theme.

 

[the_game_161]

We should be pulling away from Arsenal not hoping to keep up with them.

True but we aren't so for now we need to just keep pace.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

Yaya is a fucking disgrace!! End of errand!!!! Pelligrini is a fucking disgrace for continuously playing out of form players(Yaya, KDB, Navas, Cliché) Our centre halves are one huge joke! Why the hell won't he give youth a chance? Sick to fucking death of games drifting on by which we didn't win..yet with a bit of nouse,better team selection and good management, we could of won! How the fuck we are where we are in the league is a fucking mystery with this clown in charge.

 

[Proy]

One league away win since September? Not won 2 league games in a row since October I believe? With our squad that is absolute dogshit!

That's another one of those little stats that often go under the radar. There are plenty of them and they have all crept in under Manuel.

At the moment people will use the argument that we are in the thick of a title fight and still in 4 competitions. That is true, but the wheels will come off this place as soon as we exit a couple of competitions and are still flattering to decisive in the title race.

This is no longer about 'let's sack the manager', 'this players shit', 'that players shit'. It's about having the common sense and the foresight to see that we are simply not playing well enough to win any trophy as we stand. Every man can see it.

That we have somehow gone backwards in the last 2 years is indeed inept management when you look at the quality we have added to this squad. I blame Pelligrini for that. He isn't getting the maximum from this team, not in a month of Sunday's and nobody will convince me otherwise

 

[butlerkb]

Having seen several of your posts, it's not hard to understand why

Remember last time , city vs spurs 6-2 in the snow and you said it was 4-1 the ballet on ice, we'll check your facts ,you were wrong then, and you are wrong now.

 

[Kinkladze 1]

1 away win in 8. Ouch! Yaya left for dead for the first goal ( he can't have been tired, it was after 45seconds!) Otamendi gone to sleep for the second. I'm sick of yaya taking the free kicks too. For two games in a row now he's pulled rank on KDB and put it straight in the wall.

 

[proachy]

While a draw at West Ham wouldnt be the reason,his casefile gets thicker.

His case file is very thick yes and understandably so. He does make many mistakes but to keep calling for his head is just wrong. Personally I thought the first sub yesterday should have been Silva, he got that wrong in my opinion. However, he's the manager, he makes the decisions and for that I will back him. At the end of this season it looks like changes are coming, but for now Manuel is our man and we have a team that battles. Just get fed up with the sack him get him out brigade.