I fi d it bizarre how people I here abuse realists with being flappers and acting like rags in fact I think those that spout that shut and are happy to play ostrich are cunts. the reality is we were dire, played off the park and all those saying we are in 4 comps get a grip.. we are not winning the prem or the CL and we will soon be out of the other comps! that is not ragish or flapping it's a realistic opinion based on the crap that is being served up!